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  • tedwuji
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    Originally posted by Artista
    Dr. Wesley is a very busy and SINCERE doctor!

    I WILL be at his clinic next month, November 2015, to be a patient of his next Phase Testing!!
    I am quite excited to be a part of this possibly new scientific 'Game-Changer' for hair transplantation surgery.
    Excellent, keep us posted brother!

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  • Artista
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    Dr. Wesley is a very busy and SINCERE doctor!

    I WILL be at his clinic next month, November 2015, to be a patient of his next Phase Testing!!
    I am quite excited to be a part of this possibly new scientific 'Game-Changer' for hair transplantation surgery.

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  • tedwuji
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    Originally posted by barfacan
    maybe by 2020.
    I've been saying since July to wait until 2017, and then we will know more. You can't rush these things...

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  • Swooping
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    Originally posted by garethbale
    Dr Wesley has plenty of time on his hands.

    Those others you mention will be years before their methods get to market, if at all.
    Agree. Hair transplant doctors are currently sitting in a very favorable position for the next coming years.

    Even if it will take 2 years from now which is a bit of a disappointment Dr. Wesley has enough time. Also I think that it's better to have everything perfected before releasing the device.

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  • barfacan
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    maybe by 2020.

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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by Renee
    How do we know this statement by a new forum member is accurate? Dr wesley knows he has to act quick if he wants to make money cause lauster, jahoda/Higgins/christiano, tsuji, shisheido etc are racing towards finding a cure to baldness.
    Dr Wesley has plenty of time on his hands.

    Those others you mention will be years before their methods get to market, if at all.

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  • allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
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    Two years is fine. It won't be cheap. I imagine most will need some time to save up money to get it done anyway.

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  • kirklandism
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    Originally posted by Renee
    How do we know this statement by a new forum member is accurate? Dr wesley knows he has to act quick if he wants to make money cause lauster, jahoda/Higgins/christiano, tsuji, shisheido etc are racing towards finding a cure to baldness.
    I'll assume you're referring to me.

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  • Renee
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    How do we know this statement by a new forum member is accurate? Dr wesley knows he has to act quick if he wants to make money cause lauster, jahoda/Higgins/christiano, tsuji, shisheido etc are racing towards finding a cure to baldness.

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  • john2399
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    Originally posted by kirklandism
    I had an opportunity to chat with Dr. Wesley on October 1 and here are some of the highlights of the interview:

    - best case scenario, piloscopy begins to roll out in 2 years. It will be a controlled release, meaning that Dr. Wesley will start training a couple of trusted doctors, get their feedback on the instrumentation and technique, make adjustments if required, then continue to add doctors to the training sessions until such a time that he feels that most of the current hurdles have been overcome.
    - I can assume that these hurdles are primarily with the instrumentation. He is creating new instruments that will improve upon the technique. The engineering involved is complicated, there are many variables at play in doing piloscopy and each iteration of engineering the instruments overcome each variable.
    - there is no guarantee of donor regeneration with this technique but given that existing studies show that when transecting a follicle, some growth from the donor site does occur, there is a reasonable assumption that, with this technique, there will be some regeneration. They quality of that regeneration was not discussed but again, given the existing studies, we can presume that the donor hairs will be thinner and finer than the original ones.
    - piloscopy is likely a game-changer in the HT field just like FUE was. Some doctors have already attempted taking grafts from underneath the scalp using endoscopic techniques but the method was too time consuming and too awkward. With new instrumentation, the technique should be viable for extracting large numbers of grafts in a single session. However, it will take time since it requires new instrumentation to pull it off. Both a significant amount of time and money has been expended towards creating these new instruments.
    Does this mean 2 years for other doctors? Will he be doing the procedure in his practice beforehand?

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  • joachim
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    OMG, this is crazy. another 2 years for the roll out as best case? so it's safe to say we can add another 6 to 12 months for "unexpected" delays, and here we are. 3 years from now. and dozens of further iterations go improve the instrumentation. i understand that endoscopic instruments, especially new ones, are hard to develop. but after years of development now adding another 2 to 3 years? pfff...

    pilofocus is definitely a write-off, sorry.

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  • kirklandism
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    I had an opportunity to chat with Dr. Wesley on October 1 and here are some of the highlights of the interview:

    - best case scenario, piloscopy begins to roll out in 2 years. It will be a controlled release, meaning that Dr. Wesley will start training a couple of trusted doctors, get their feedback on the instrumentation and technique, make adjustments if required, then continue to add doctors to the training sessions until such a time that he feels that most of the current hurdles have been overcome.
    - I can assume that these hurdles are primarily with the instrumentation. He is creating new instruments that will improve upon the technique. The engineering involved is complicated, there are many variables at play in doing piloscopy and each iteration of engineering the instruments overcome each variable.
    - there is no guarantee of donor regeneration with this technique but given that existing studies show that when transecting a follicle, some growth from the donor site does occur, there is a reasonable assumption that, with this technique, there will be some regeneration. They quality of that regeneration was not discussed but again, given the existing studies, we can presume that the donor hairs will be thinner and finer than the original ones.
    - piloscopy is likely a game-changer in the HT field just like FUE was. Some doctors have already attempted taking grafts from underneath the scalp using endoscopic techniques but the method was too time consuming and too awkward. With new instrumentation, the technique should be viable for extracting large numbers of grafts in a single session. However, it will take time since it requires new instrumentation to pull it off. Both a significant amount of time and money has been expended towards creating these new instruments.

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  • kirklandism
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  • Swooping
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    Originally posted by joachim
    by the way, there is an easy explanation for this phenomenon on reduced diameter.
    more than a year ago there was this researcher from jahoda's team, who found this forum and stayed for a few weeks to answer us some questions. i don't remember his name and i'm too lazy to search for that thread. however, he said this:

    the hair diameter is directly related to the number of DP cells in the hair follicle. each follicle contains about 1000 to 2000 DP cells, if i remember correctly (but the number doesn't matter anyway).

    if you split the hair follicle into two halves, then you split the number of cells. so lets say each halve then has around 500 cells afterwards. this results in a smaller diameter of course. yes, the bisected follicle can repair itself, to continue functioning after that, but you didn't force the DP cells to multiply themselves during that split. it may happen that some percentage of the cells really start dividing and multiplying themselves to some extent, but i wouldn't say they restore exactly all the lost 500 cells.

    and now acell must come into play, as it is said to exactly promote those regenerative capability (maybe you remember the story of the man with the regrown finger, almost like a salamander, only with acell).
    acell seems to magically tell or force the cells to regenerate the previos state of cells, which seems to be stored somehow in the cells, like a memory.
    so if those DP cells multiply themselves again, to reach the previous number of 1000 cells, then we can expect full thickness of the diameter again.

    not impossible in my opinion, but not yet proven. dr. wesley has to hurry up finally.
    Yes you are correct DP size does correlate with hair follicle size and type and it also acts as a instructive niche to many cell types including progenitors. However the funny thing is when you dissect a hair follicle horizontally you donīt touch the DP, it stays intact. Every study or proof of concept has shown horizontal cut being able to yield regeneration. Yet is seems to grow thinner which is interesting.You make some good points indeed with things that would need to be overcome. With the diameter of hair and implantation being a huge focus. Thanks.

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  • stayhopeful
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    Originally posted by Hemo
    This is the same canned message they've been giving for a while. I believe I got it back in Feb, when they also said they would start with true clinical trials (with 100 grafts) over the summer.

    That's very disturbing that the office in the name of Dr. Wesley is disseminating unfactual information.

    I sincerely hope Dr. Wesley sees this forum and addresses this issue as soon as possible

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