adipose-derived stem cell protein extract

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  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4419

    #61
    Originally posted by maomao
    AAPE solution can be purchased here - http://ymsconsulting.org/aape_hair.html

    $1000 though!
    I'd pay more than $1K for the kind of results they got which seem to be superior to Histogen!

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    • maomao
      Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 30

      #62
      Be careful, this stuff has been around since 2007 (search for slone clinic Singapore, who no longer seem to offer it)

      A new version (v3) was released in 2012, which I'm guessing is what the new study was on.

      Let's see what the Korean place says...

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      • downandout
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2014
        • 25

        #63
        if anything, we should be trying to get ahold of the research company that was doing the trials and see where they are headed with this product they used in the trials. Are they seeking any further trials?

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        • nameless
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 965

          #64
          Originally posted by downandout
          if anything, we should be trying to get ahold of the research company that was doing the trials and see where they are headed with this product they used in the trials. Are they seeking any further trials?
          +1

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          • Swooping
            Senior Member
            • May 2014
            • 794

            #65
            Seems they don't want to sell this AAPE solution and absolutely not yet as a commercial product. He said this;

            "but i know AAPE Study author professor, he working in dongkok university hospital.

            I worked 5 year ago in dongkok hospital ."

            He will contact him. I just wrote him a e-mail about why they don't want to sell it yet. I'll give them a call myself probably too and just propose myself as a researcher (or doc).

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            • hgs1989
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 164

              #66
              Originally posted by Swooping
              Seems they don't want to sell this AAPE solution and absolutely not yet as a commercial product. He said this;

              "but i know AAPE Study author professor, he working in dongkok university hospital.

              I worked 5 year ago in dongkok hospital ."

              He will contact him. I just wrote him a e-mail about why they don't want to sell it yet. I'll give them a call myself probably too and just propose myself as a researcher (or doc).
              another user posted a link where we can buy it from, but still more info from your friend is appreciable.

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                #67
                Originally posted by Swooping
                Seems they don't want to sell this AAPE solution and absolutely not yet as a commercial product. He said this;

                "but i know AAPE Study author professor, he working in dongkok university hospital.

                I worked 5 year ago in dongkok hospital ."

                He will contact him. I just wrote him a e-mail about why they don't want to sell it yet. I'll give them a call myself probably too and just propose myself as a researcher (or doc).
                Looks like you can buy some here:

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                • Swooping
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 794

                  #68
                  You guys sure that is the one we need though? I am pretty sure it HAS to come in a sterilized vial if it is for injection, no doubt (not a microneedle treatment). Something like this;

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                  • Swooping
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2014
                    • 794

                    #69
                    Also as seen on the picture i'm 100% they need to be freeze and if reconstituted they will be probably only stable for like 1 week if cooled. Cytokines & growth factors are damn unstable in normal temperatures and degrade very fast. You can see them on the movie too, sitting in a freezer.. I'll keep you guys updated.

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Swooping
                      Also as seen on the picture i'm 100% they need to be freeze and if reconstituted they will be probably only stable for like 1 week if cooled. Cytokines & growth factors are damn unstable in normal temperatures and degrade very fast. You can see them on the movie too, sitting in a freezer.. I'll keep you guys updated.
                      Perhaps thats why the treatment is only done in hospitals?

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                      • Swooping
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 794

                        #71
                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        Perhaps thats why the treatment is only done in hospitals?
                        Exactly. Let's see what the guy from the study says!

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                        • Sogeking
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 494

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Swooping
                          Exactly. Let's see what the guy from the study says!
                          Thank you and please keep us posted, I am willing to try this at least so I could halt my hair loss. If it works of course and if it is around 1000 $.

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                          • Alias123
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 79

                            #73
                            is it only me or does this seem a bit to good to be true? i mean if this would be true this would mean the ultimate bridging solution for NW2 and down, the only reason i can think about why this hasent gotten any worldwide attention is the fact that it is
                            1. its not a full blown cure
                            2. its a repeatable process compareable with Hairtransplants
                            3. it doesnt garauantee very good results

                            Anyone having faith in this? I sure hope its true considering the fact that it would be a blessing for many of us out there with the ability and will to spend a big sum for good but not extraordinary results, but as mentioned earlier, not a cure in that sense that its suitable for the majority of the balding people out there.

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                            • nameless
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 965

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Alias123
                              is it only me or does this seem a bit to good to be true? i mean if this would be true this would mean the ultimate bridging solution for NW2 and down, the only reason i can think about why this hasent gotten any worldwide attention is the fact that it is
                              1. its not a full blown cure
                              2. its a repeatable process compareable with Hairtransplants
                              3. it doesnt garauantee very good results

                              Anyone having faith in this? I sure hope its true considering the fact that it would be a blessing for many of us out there with the ability and will to spend a big sum for good but not extraordinary results, but as mentioned earlier, not a cure in that sense that its suitable for the majority of the balding people out there.

                              Firstly, the treatment would have to be done the same as it's done in the study. That means the exact same medicine in the exact same vehicle - all in the exact same concentrations. High dose. Plus there would also have to be repeat visits. Plus there would have to be injections. Plus preparation for the injections. Plus the proper storage. And the exact same amount of injections.

                              It would be best for this to be done at a clinic/hospital rather than doing it at home. It could be done at home but it really would be best to have medical personal do it so it would require repeat visits to the clinic/hospital.

                              And I think it would be good for more than just NW2 on down because even the people with further loss could get some benefit and if they got some benefit it might be enough benefit to make them look good enough that they wouldn't be at such a disadvantage to the men with hair. You don't need to get it all back to make yourself look good enough to make a difference.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                #75
                                Are adipose derived stem cells basically from FAT cells?

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