adipose-derived stem cell protein extract

[hellouser]

Im going for the treatment in switzerland within 1 month, do you want me to keep you updates with photos etc? only on propecia now, been for 15 months, still losing ground so if hairloss stops or i get regrowth, its because of this treatment and not anything else.

Please do and please try to take consistent photos at the same angle with the same lighting conditions.

[hgs1989]

Im going for the treatment in switzerland within 1 month, do you want me to keep you updates with photos etc? only on propecia now, been for 15 months, still losing ground so if hairloss stops or i get regrowth, its because of this treatment and not anything else.

I would recommend to take the photos by yourself. the doctors will always try to enhance the results by lighting.
thanks

[Pelopeleon]

Im going for the treatment in switzerland within 1 month, do you want me to keep you updates with photos etc? only on propecia now, been for 15 months, still losing ground so if hairloss stops or i get regrowth, its because of this treatment and not anything else.

Yes, it would be very nice. I am thinking about that treatment... as I cannot tolerate propecia, and I am only using minoxidil.

[Alias123]

Im going for the treatment in switzerland within 1 month, do you want me to keep you updates with photos etc? only on propecia now, been for 15 months, still losing ground so if hairloss stops or i get regrowth, its because of this treatment and not anything else.

[hellouser]

would you please post a link to the thread you mentioned

I don't want to be banned here, lol. SAGA is a private forum anyway.

[hgs1989]

Swooping,

What if you were to use the dermapen that deposited a topical? SAGA has a thread on it, check these out;

http://viya.en.alibaba.com/product/1501145531-212416527/VY_799_derma_roller_electric_roller_massager.html

http://www.novanewface.com/product-3-3-298.html

http://www.dermica.ch/en/products/transversal/automeso.php

http://www.amazon.com/Therapy-Delivery-Tappy-TokTok-Professional/dp/B00CPBY7M4/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt

http://www.ubiomed.co.kr/base/eng/product/product_01.php

http://www.adminmed.com/adminpen600

would you please post a link to the thread you mentioned

[Pelopeleon]

one more thing guys, if you are going to try it, try it on your own responsibility. I am not responsible for any complications. I will try them at my own risk .

What problems could you have with that stem cell treatments, for example that one from Switzerland? What could expect a nw2 using this?

[nameless]

they are the same, fatty stem cells.

How do you know that they're the same treatment? They might be different treatments. Yes they both involve adipose stem cells but AAPE (the treatment in the study originally presented in this thread) is a very specific extract of very specific growth factors and proteins from those adipose stem cells. The Vienna treatment may not involve the exact same growth factors and proteins. Plus the AAPE treatment in the study was mixed with some other ingredients by the researchers some vitamins and whatnot. I really don't think that the Vienna treatment will include those same ingredients. Also, the treatment in the study was injected at certain depths and involved repeat follow-up treatments of the same medicine weeks later for months. Also, the treatment in the study also involved a topical rub-on solution for at least some patients.

[hgs1989]

wait a minute, what is the difference between the one in vienna

http://ddrheinrich.com/en/treatments/face-skin-hair/

and

http://www.arsmedical.info/template-...tem-cells.html

which one would you guys trust yields the best results?

they are the same, fatty stem cells.

[Alias123]

wait a minute, what is the difference between the one in vienna

http://ddrheinrich.com/en/treatments/face-skin-hair/

and

http://www.arsmedical.info/template-...tem-cells.html

which one would you guys trust yields the best results?

[hgs1989]

one more thing guys, if you are going to try it, try it on your own responsibility. I am not responsible for any complications. I will try them at my own risk .

[nameless]

yes I am sure. sure I will keep you posted on this thread but I might take a while. as I said I will buy it after the summer and then 6 to 8 weeks of the treatment.

* The researchers in he original study added some other ingredients of their own. Are you going to do that too?

* Also, the researchers injected the treatment. Are you going to do that too?

* Also, they didn't just inject the treatment on one occasion. There were follow-up appointments where they did more of the same treatments.

* Also, I think they used a topical of the treatment.

* They injected a certain depth - 3 cm I think.


You have to do the exact same things the researchers did.

[hgs1989]

Hey man are you sure that AAPE is the same thing that you linked in your first post (the study )? Srry didn't read I'm not trying to be a tawt .

yes I am sure. sure I will keep you posted on this thread but I might take a while. as I said I will buy it after the summer and then 6 to 8 weeks of the treatment.

[hgs1989]

Is this the delivery system you mean?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tappy-Tok-To...-/191082505087

yes

[Sogeking]

this is different than what this thread is about. you can have similar to the link you quoted done for 2500$ in boston. this is the link to the clinic.http://www.nehair.com/stem-cells check this thread there are others in los angeles and arizona I posted a link to before. but seriously I believe stem cells treatment should be repeated in 2-4 weeks intervals and at 2500$ it is a rip off not mention travelling and hotel costs. any results from this treatment once will be minimal. I expect complete hair loss stoppage but little gain similar to acell+prp (check this lnik for pics http://prasadcosmeticsurgery.com/pra...r-restoration/) and then hair loss might kick back in like a year or so. looking at the pictures the results are impressive but more frequent treatments will yield far better results.any how any one wants to try this he/she should take before and after pics himself to monitor progress. doctors will play with light to make results better.

anyhow, guys I'll buy this AAPE for 1000$ after the summer. i hope they sell it to individuals and not limited to clinics. also will buy the thing hellouser put a link to which is called tappy tok tok from ebay as delivery system. I'll keep you updated but again after the summer I ll begin my treatment and I ll try to follow the study protocol as close as possible(depth, area treated , dosage/cm2 anything else).

Hey man are you sure that AAPE is the same thing that you linked in your first post (the study )? Srry didn't read I'm not trying to be a tawt .

Anyways if you are going to contact them after the summer keep us in the loop. There might be something to this.

Although is there a chance for AAPE to be administered by experts? The link to the AAPE is n Korean. If your experimenting comes out as positive I am more than willing to go to Korea to get it done.

Thx for any info.