WCHR 2014 Presentations (Community-funded)

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  • Swooping
    Senior Member
    • May 2014
    • 794



    Culprit of AGA miniaturization indeed sir, good job. I totally share his hypothesis.

    Androgens > AR > ROS/Oxidative stress > P53??? etc. > > >
    > > .....

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0031052 (many more on it though, also on hair follicle level)

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    • David7
      Member
      • May 2014
      • 70

      Thanks

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      • Thinning87
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 839

        Any thoughts on the other presentation?? I mean it seems like the Koreans are also trying wounding and growth factors (or taking away inhibitors)

        I didn't really understand a lot

        PS notice Cots asking questions

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        • nameless
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 965

          Originally posted by Thinning87
          Any thoughts on the other presentation?? I mean it seems like the Koreans are also trying wounding and growth factors (or taking away inhibitors)

          I didn't really understand a lot

          PS notice Cots asking questions
          Thinning if you mean the Koreans who are using adipose stem cell proteins and growth factors, I think that they are using growth factors but they aren't taking away inhibitors. And if you are talking about the scientists involved with adipose stem cells growth factors and proteins I don't think that they're using wounding.

          Which Korean group are you referring to?

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          • David7
            Member
            • May 2014
            • 70

            Yes, can someone tell us whats happening ?I mean should we get our hopes up? I also noticed that theres a huge interest loss
            in this thread.

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            • Thinning87
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 839

              Originally posted by nameless
              Thinning if you mean the Koreans who are using adipose stem cell proteins and growth factors, I think that they are using growth factors but they aren't taking away inhibitors. And if you are talking about the scientists involved with adipose stem cells growth factors and proteins I don't think that they're using wounding.

              Which Korean group are you referring to?
              I don't know I couldn't really understand what the presenter was sayin g, but I'm referring to the new presentation that was posted. Not the one by the British guy but the one from the Korean guy. Seems early stage stuff though I mean they are out of a university lab

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              • hgs1989
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2014
                • 164

                I remember desmond said cotseralis never mentioned anything about wounding, but watching the second presentation, it was all about wounding. anyhow, did desmond post his conversation with jahoda? the one he said he will post after emailing them about the content.

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                • 35YrsAfter
                  Doctor Representative
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 1418

                  Originally posted by hiko

                  Creating hair follicles in vitro and then implanting them onto the scalp seems like a really backasswards way of doing things, but unfortunately that seems to be the aim of most research right now.
                  The ultimate goal in my view, is to somehow stimulate DHT resistant hair growth in bald areas in a way similar to how a newborn baby develops hair. During human development, the lanugo grows on fetuses as a normal part of gestation. It's usually shed and replaced by vellus hair at about 33 - 36 weeks of gestational age.

                  Another approach is surgical and one of treating the FUE donor area with a (future) refined regenerative agent so that extracted follicles moved to the balding areas grow back in their original extraction sites with 95 - 100% reliability.

                  ACell stimulates a degree of follicle regeneration. At this point in time, it benefits the patient by improving donor density post-op.

                  ACell is an extracellular matrix product made from pig's bladder. When ACell was cleared by the FDA for sale in the US to physicians, it was cleared as a medical device. In other words, it was viewed as a "scaffolding" that maintains cell position kind of like how 2x4 studs hold the siding and sheetrock in place. Extracellular matrix exists between all soft tissue cells in the body. It has later been verified that extracellular matrix serves as a cell communication medium in addition to being a sort of scaffolding. Dr. Cole developed a minimal depth FUE extraction method where the follicle is scored about half way down. The soft tissue below allows the scored follicles to be eased out. This leaves stem cells behind. The ACell powder mixed with hyaluronic acid creates a gel that when placed in the extraction sites creates a scaffolding as well as restores a degree of cell communication. Because of the improved cell communication, the body has a better idea what used to be at the extraction site and the ACell gel promotes tissue remodeling. When the body doesn't know what used to be at an injury site, the body calls on its generic "filler" known as scar tissue.

                  Dr. Cole is currently moving tissue remodeling forward in his practice with a new medical product called AmnioFix.

                  35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                  forhair.com
                  Cole Hair Transplant
                  1070 Powers Place
                  Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                  Phone 678-566-1011
                  email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                  The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
                  Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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                  • Artista
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2070

                    Chuck hi my friend-that was a great 'lay-mens' way of explaining the use of Acell in this case! Acell is still progressing in all types of usages.

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                    • clandestine
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 2002

                      Originally posted by David7
                      I mean should we get our hopes up?
                      It would be entirey foolish to do so.

                      Your call, though.

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                      • joachim
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 559

                        Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
                        The ultimate goal in my view, is to somehow stimulate DHT resistant hair growth in bald areas in a way similar to how a newborn baby develops hair. During human development, the lanugo grows on fetuses as a normal part of gestation. It's usually shed and replaced by vellus hair at about 33 - 36 weeks of gestational age.

                        Another approach is surgical and one of treating the FUE donor area with a (future) refined regenerative agent so that extracted follicles moved to the balding areas grow back in their original extraction sites with 95 - 100% reliability.

                        ACell stimulates a degree of follicle regeneration. At this point in time, it benefits the patient by improving donor density post-op.

                        ACell is an extracellular matrix product made from pig's bladder. When ACell was cleared by the FDA for sale in the US to physicians, it was cleared as a medical device. In other words, it was viewed as a "scaffolding" that maintains cell position kind of like how 2x4 studs hold the siding and sheetrock in place. Extracellular matrix exists between all soft tissue cells in the body. It has later been verified that extracellular matrix serves as a cell communication medium in addition to being a sort of scaffolding. Dr. Cole developed a minimal depth FUE extraction method where the follicle is scored about half way down. The soft tissue below allows the scored follicles to be eased out. This leaves stem cells behind. The ACell powder mixed with hyaluronic acid creates a gel that when placed in the extraction sites creates a scaffolding as well as restores a degree of cell communication. Because of the improved cell communication, the body has a better idea what used to be at the extraction site and the ACell gel promotes tissue remodeling. When the body doesn't know what used to be at an injury site, the body calls on its generic "filler" known as scar tissue.

                        Dr. Cole is currently moving tissue remodeling forward in his practice with a new medical product called AmnioFix.

                        35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                        forhair.com
                        Cole Hair Transplant
                        1070 Powers Place
                        Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                        Phone 678-566-1011
                        email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                        The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
                        Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
                        did dr. Cole see some donor regeneration so far? if yes, was it documented? how many percent are realistic today? 3 to 5 % maybe? and how does that affect the recipient site? still the same survival rate with such extraction technique?

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                        • Thinning87
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 839

                          Originally posted by Artista
                          Chuck hi my friend-that was a great 'lay-mens' way of explaining the use of Acell in this case! Acell is still progressing in all types of usages.
                          just seems like a commercial for his employer to me... every comment in every thread is an opportunity to talk about Dr. Cole

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4419

                            Originally posted by Thinning87
                            just seems like a commercial for his employer to me... every comment in every thread is an opportunity to talk about Dr. Cole
                            It's paid advertising for Dr. Cole. One of Spencer Kobren's methods of income.

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                            • joachim
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 559

                              by the way where is desmond all the time? there's still so much to discuss and clarify. and from where the hell do we find out how far the chinese are with the DP culturing? did they achieve 100% gene expression or not? if it turns out that they are ahead of jahoda/gardner and also taiwan in terms of DP gene expression, this changes things dramatically.
                              currently the 100% goal is what jahoda/gardner are trying to achieve. this will be their main focus for the next 1,2,3 years or even longer. but if there is really someone out there in the world who cracked the code already, then let's not waste some more years on that.

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                              • nameless
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 965

                                Originally posted by hgs1989
                                I remember desmond said cotseralis never mentioned anything about wounding, but watching the second presentation, it was all about wounding. anyhow, did desmond post his conversation with jahoda? the one he said he will post after emailing them about the content.

                                I'm at work for another 6 hours so I can't check out that 2nd presentation. Are you talking about a 2nd presentation by Cotseralis? Does it involve wounding? What does it say about wounding?

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