WCHR 2014 Presentations (Community-funded)

[hellouser]

Hell I don't know you but you seem like a resourceful guy and have connections

why not concentrate some effort to get in touch with some famous people and see what you can come up with?

I need a presentation first; name, logo, website mockup, strategies for public outreach, plans for distribution of funds, assigned roles of contributors, etc. etc. etc. You can't show potential researchers chicken shit and expect chicken salad.

This is a BIG project that were thinking of thats bigger than any one of us. It has its payoffs, but not without a certain 'price'

[nameless]

LOL. You are so funny JarJarbinx. You want Nigam to perform some cutting edge technique on you ? Look at Boldy, Nigam cant even do a regular hair transplant, he implanted grafts upside down and you want this guy to operate on you ? Look at Wesley, the guy almost died and you want Nigam to do the same to you ? Sorry but that's just absurd. We can use Nigam exactly like a pain in the ass. Forget about that guy. If a cure sees the light, then there are tons of others, CAPABLE doctors who actually DO know what they're doing, who want to make a few million dollars. No need for Nigam at all.

Ok Arishi then please find us a different doctor who will do it. But do know that all doctors have made mistakes. Still, if you have a different doctor we could have do this I'm all ears.

One piece of information that I will give you that might be helpful to you in finding a different doctor for us. I read about an anti-aging doctor in the Caribbean who is using cell injections that are not approved in the USA but are lawful where he is practicing. I think some millionaire old man is running the clinic and they showed his pic and he does look younger than his actual years.

Since you live in the Caribbean perhaps you are the exact person who could spearhead a search for a doctor we can be happy with. Truth to tell, I would like to meet you anyway. I think it would be great if we went to a doctor in the Caribbean, got our hair back, and then have a big weekend party in the Caribbean and stay in touch and share how things turn out in our lives once we have our hair back. That sounds really cool to me.

[jjo]

I need a presentation first; name, logo, website mockup, strategies for public outreach, plans for distribution of funds, assigned roles of contributors, etc. etc. etc. You can't show potential researchers chicken shit and expect chicken salad.

This is a BIG project that were thinking of thats bigger than any one of us. It has its payoffs, but not without a certain 'price'

that's what i mean, you have a mind and vision for something like this.

forget about putting money together to send some guy to a conference... lets put money for getting us together along with some famous people with money and get this done

i imagine a guy like jude law feels the pain just like us.. maybe even more cause he's in the spotlight all the time and was considered a real handsome guy

[sascha]

I hope the positional good theory is rendered useless one day where all of us here on the forum can experience that feeling.

So far, being a balding man feels like society wants us to remain at the bottom of the totem pole. Time to change that... perhaps a cure for human greed and selfishness rather than a cure for baldness?

Can´t agree more. Well, sadly it is more likely that we get a cure for baldness. OK I am totally not sad about that , it is all about being confident and feel great in your own skin I think that is the key to great success. If Cotsarelis wasn´t bull*ing or missleading on purpose, you can count on me to make as much people aware of this possibility as possible. A good bridge-treatment is needed guys!!

[rdawg]

This is extremely positive news and exactly what I was hoping for.

It seems like ALOT of progress is being made behind the scenes privately, as they are worried about competition.

I just want to know which solution is closest? and if we can get the 2 million better than Pro/min solution that Follica mentioned!

[Arashi]

Ok Arishi then please find us a different doctor who will do it. But do know that all doctors have made mistakes. Still, if you have a different doctor we could have do this I'm all ears.

One piece of information that I will give you that might be helpful to you in finding a different doctor for us. I read about an anti-aging doctor in the Caribbean who is using cell injections that are not approved in the USA but are lawful where he is practicing. I think some millionaire old man is running the clinic and they showed his pic and he does look younger than his actual years.

Since you live in the Caribbean perhaps you are the exact person who could spearhead a search for a doctor we can be happy with. Truth to tell, I would like to meet you anyway. I think it would be great if we went to a doctor in the Caribbean, got our hair back, and then have a big weekend party in the Caribbean and stay in touch and share how things turn out in our lives once we have our hair back. That sounds really cool to me.

JarJar, once the info is out on how to do this, there are TONS of doctors willing to become millionaires and offer it before official trials ends, mark my words.

[Imalmostbald]

JarJar, once the info is out on how to do this, there are TONS of doctors willing to become millionaires and offer it before official trials ends, mark my words.

Don't be that naive you think you will obtain the technical data and knowledge when the cure is out? Stay objective as you always do lol.

[Maxis]

Ok Arishi then please find us a different doctor who will do it. But do know that all doctors have made mistakes. Still, if you have a different doctor we could have do this I'm all ears.

One piece of information that I will give you that might be helpful to you in finding a different doctor for us. I read about an anti-aging doctor in the Caribbean who is using cell injections that are not approved in the USA but are lawful where he is practicing. I think some millionaire old man is running the clinic and they showed his pic and he does look younger than his actual years.

Since you live in the Caribbean perhaps you are the exact person who could spearhead a search for a doctor we can be happy with. Truth to tell, I would like to meet you anyway. I think it would be great if we went to a doctor in the Caribbean, got our hair back, and then have a big weekend party in the Caribbean and stay in touch and share how things turn out in our lives once we have our hair back. That sounds really cool to me.

The man is called Peter Nygard, the clinic he set up is called Nygard Biotech.

[nameless]

JarJar, once the info is out on how to do this, there are TONS of doctors willing to become millionaires and offer it before official trials ends, mark my words.

Yea but you're in a good position to make that happen since you live in the Caribbean and there are already doctors there doing cell injections for the aging process that are more advanced than the aging injections allowed in America. The Caribbean already has the exact type of doctors that we need and they are set-up in locations where it's legal for them to do cell therapies. And the Caribbean is a beautiful location, which makes it the perfect location for us all to become beautiful again. Plus it's close to the USA. Arishi if the info comes out you are the man of the hour who can get us a great doctor to do this.

I will try to find video of that old guy who set up an anti-aging cell injection clinic in the Caribbean. Te is not the actual doctor, he just set up the clinic and owns it. It likes he has set it up smartly but without a lot of frills so the clinic is only what it needs to be to get the job done for the anti-aging injections. I bet he would be interested.

[nameless]

The man is called Peter Nygard, the clinic he set up is called Nygard Biotech.

Thanks for the man's name. Great find!!!!

Arishi if we find out all the necessary info for hair cell therapy could you please start reading about Peter Nygard and his clinic? It would be great if you were fully informed. I think that this guy might jump at it and he might even do us a discount from bringing this information to him. I think you could mention the possibility of a discount for TBT members since TBT brought it to him. He could make a fortune and he is into money for sure.

[CAlex]

First off, thanks Desmond and everyone who contributed money and helped plan this. It is the first successful group effort Ive seen on here and may lead to future fundraising etc.

I look at Desmonds trip to the conference and sum it up in 3 ways

1) Great for us/Des to "BE" at the conference and actually hear the facts first hand in terms of where the research is.

2) Great news for anyone who has very young children or expecting because the cure seems to still be 8-20 years away (I know that sounds long and im just pulling numbers from nowhere) But remember its been 6 years since Dr.Cost 2008 msnbc appearance and the cure would be on the shelves in 2-3 years and follica is still not close to market.


3) Bitter pill for the rest of us. Doesnt seem like foll/his/repl are making the headway we had expected and none may get to market. It looks doubtful we are getting anything in the next 3-5 yrs.

Great progress is being made still so many years to go.

P.S. "US $2 million would bring out a product that would be more effective than Minoxidil and Propecia but would not give a bald person a full head of hair."

This makes me not trust Dr. C at all any more. He might be a good researcher but his timelines are always b.s. If they currently had a product they could get to market for 2mill and would give better results than prop/minox it would be on the news once released.

There would be no enormous cost of educating the market. Every current guy on minox/prop would use the follica product/treatment and the $2million would be recouped in less than a week.

[bigentries]

forget about Gates.. there are many balding stars that we know and probably many who are fighting it and hiding it


matthew mcconaughey
jude law
travolta
Kiefer Sutherland
Jason Statham

etc etc etc etc..

even donald trump

it's everywhere

get these guys together to privately fund for a cure

People see it as an investment.

Ok, every other bald guy in the world gives one dollar. What then?

I don't get why people are so eager to give money without an action plan. Imagine if they used all the money to study baldness in rats

Aderans got a pretty decent cash flow for years and it lead to nowhere, same with Intercytex

The fact that Histogen and Follica are struggling with funding tells you that they haven't convinced anyone that the money will lead to a future treatment

[nameless]

First off, thanks Desmond and everyone who contributed money and helped plan this. It is the first successful group effort Ive seen on here and may lead to future fundraising etc.

I look at Desmonds trip to the conference and sum it up in 3 ways

1) Great for us/Des to "BE" at the conference and actually hear the facts first hand in terms of where the research is.

2) Great news for anyone who has very young children or expecting because the cure seems to still be 8-20 years away (I know that sounds long and im just pulling numbers from nowhere) But remember its been 6 years since Dr.Cost 2008 msnbc appearance and the cure would be on the shelves in 2-3 years and follica is still not close to market.


3) Bitter pill for the rest of us. Doesnt seem like foll/his/repl are making the headway we had expected and none may get to market. It looks doubtful we are getting anything in the next 3-5 yrs.

Great progress is being made still so many years to go.

P.S. "US $2 million would bring out a product that would be more effective than Minoxidil and Propecia but would not give a bald person a full head of hair."

This makes me not trust Dr. C at all any more. He might be a good researcher but his timelines are always b.s. If they currently had a product they could get to market for 2mill and would give better results than prop/minox it would be on the news once released.

There would be no enormous cost of educating the market. Every current guy on minox/prop would use the follica product/treatment and the $2million would be recouped in less than a week.

I would be hesitant to chip in. He specifically said the treatment would be somewhat better than minox/propecia so that is not a lot of improvement. I don't think it's worth the trouble. I would rather have a better cure. Cell therapy is the way to go. Cotseralis has had his chance to being a wounding treatment to market and he has failed. I think we should move on to the cell based stuff and move on from Follica.

[nameless]

People see it as an investment.

Ok, every other bald guy in the world gives one dollar. What then?

I don't get why people are so eager to give money without an action plan. Imagine if they used all the money to study baldness in rats

Aderans got a pretty decent cash flow for years and it lead to nowhere, same with Intercytex

The fact that Histogen and Follica are struggling with funding tells you that they haven't convinced anyone that the money will lead to a future treatment

+ a BIG one.

We should move on TO Cell therapies and move FROM Follica.

[hellouser]

People see it as an investment.

Ok, every other bald guy in the world gives one dollar. What then?

I don't get why people are so eager to give money without an action plan. Imagine if they used all the money to study baldness in rats

Aderans got a pretty decent cash flow for years and it lead to nowhere, same with Intercytex

The fact that Histogen and Follica are struggling with funding tells you that they haven't convinced anyone that the money will lead to a future treatment

That's why I've repeated numerous times that crowdfunding should happen once we have concise evidence from the researchers that YES, WE CAN GROW FULL TERMINAL HAIR GROWING FOLLICLES WITH COLOUR IN ANY NUMBER DE NOVO ON HUMAN SCALP.

Until that happens, we're basically taking a shot in the dark. I always had a gut feeling that Dr. Lauster's work was the holy grail... I'm ready to go ****ing balls out on a crowdfunding campaign if its legit. I'm NOT wasting my time on Aderans. Histogen on the other hand, would be a fantastic bridging solution, so if they actually didnt **** around, I'd be more than willing to support them if they committed to a commercial release.