Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)

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  • efedrez
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 168

    Originally posted by UK_
    Because it's not a cure. It's just ANOTHER false-hope article about some research team who CLAIM to have done something amazing but as usual nothing will come of it, because, as fate would have it, we are still around 40 years of research away from even beginning to develop a decent treatment for hair loss.

    If you decide to spend the next 40 years following hair loss research I can guarantee you one thing: hundreds if not thousands of articles like this one, but nothing more... just articles... articles articles articles articles, you're [all] living a dream in the mythical world of journalism, I suggest you wake up and realise we are all half a century away (if not more) from even beginning to think about a cure for hair loss.
    Hi UK, I totally understand you frustration and for sure you have been around long enough to go over quiet a few "potential cures" just to end up with another disappointment.

    But visiting the cutting edge section should mean that you believe in the possibility of finding a cure for baldness within our lifetime.

    There are plenty of researchers and companies seriously working on it and even though it might not happen as fast as we all want we will get there before you know it

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    • Scientalk56
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 280

      Originally posted by UK_
      Because it's not a cure. It's just ANOTHER false-hope article about some research team who CLAIM to have done something amazing but as usual nothing will come of it, because, as fate would have it, we are still around 40 years of research away from even beginning to develop a decent treatment for hair loss.

      If you decide to spend the next 40 years following hair loss research I can guarantee you one thing: hundreds if not thousands of articles like this one, but nothing more... just articles... articles articles articles articles, you're [all] living a dream in the mythical world of journalism, I suggest you wake up and realise we are all half a century away (if not more) from even beginning to think about a cure for hair loss.
      I have to diasgree with you this time..

      i am not saying we're going to see a cure (or even a treatment) soon..

      but these kind of articles we should read, not the one we read on the news.. these are peer-reviewed articles based on scientific evidence.. people who work their ass everyday...

      They aren't promising us anything.. but this kind of scientists are taking us one step closer to finding a cure for baldness...

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      • HairBane
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 300

        Originally posted by Scientalk56
        I have to diasgree with you this time..

        i am not saying we're going to see a cure (or even a treatment) soon..

        but these kind of articles we should read, not the one we read on the news.. these are peer-reviewed articles based on scientific evidence.. people who work their ass everyday...

        They aren't promising us anything.. but this kind of scientists are taking us one step closer to finding a cure for baldness...
        Well said, good man

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        • Arashi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3888

          Originally posted by BoSox
          How come this isn't all over the news "Baldness cure found" ???
          Hehe. The same thing happened with Jahoda's finding. I remember when Dr Nigam visited WCHR 2013 in May and reported about Jahoda's breakthrough. I think it took about 10 days before somebody in the forum said "Wait a minute ... this is HUGE, he basically succeeded at growing hair from cultured cells", nobody else had realized that ! Then it took until fall last year before the media started reporting about it (Jahoda released the official study results/paper then).

          So don't be surprised if it goes the same way here and the media will report september 2014 about this, again. Well if the media was on top of it, we could close down this section of the forum anyway eh

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4419

            Originally posted by Scientalk56
            I have to diasgree with you this time..

            i am not saying we're going to see a cure (or even a treatment) soon..

            but these kind of articles we should read, not the one we read on the news.. these are peer-reviewed articles based on scientific evidence.. people who work their ass everyday...

            They aren't promising us anything.. but this kind of scientists are taking us one step closer to finding a cure for baldness...
            Well, to play devils advocate... if we take into consideration hair loss researcher's track record, UK_ is pretty spot on. The word 'slow' is definitely synonymous with their progress.

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              Originally posted by Arashi
              Hehe. The same thing happened with Jahoda's finding. I remember when Dr Nigam visited WCHR 2013 in May and reported about Jahoda's breakthrough. I think it took about 10 days before somebody in the forum said "Wait a minute ... this is HUGE, he basically succeeded at growing hair from cultured cells", nobody else had realized that ! Then it took until fall last year before the media started reporting about it (Jahoda released the official study results/paper then).

              So don't be surprised if it goes the same way here and the media will report september 2014 about this, again. Well if the media was on top of it, we could close down this section of the forum anyway eh
              One of us COULD tip them off. Send an email to a writer/editor...

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                Originally posted by hellouser
                One of us COULD tip them off. Send an email to a writer/editor...
                I think it will be all over the news again when they succeed at the next step: bringing the theory into practice. Everybody wants to see the photo's of human hair, grown out of cultured cells, on human skin. When that happens, I think it will be all over the news. Hopefully soon ! Even if it were only human foreskin on a SCID mouse again (like Jahoda did last year), it would still be huge !

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4419

                  Originally posted by Arashi
                  I think it will be all over the news again when they succeed at the next step: bringing the theory into practice. Everybody wants to see the photo's of human hair, grown out of cultured cells, on human skin. When that happens, I think it will be all over the news. Hopefully soon ! Even if it were only human foreskin on a SCID mouse again (like Jahoda did last year), it would still be huge !
                  They could try doing that now. What's stopping any one of them from taking a crack at it, the FDA?

                  Getting reeeeaaaal tired of the slow progress.

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                  • Arashi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3888

                    Originally posted by hellouser
                    They could try doing that now.
                    they could do it right away and I guess they are. It would make sense to do that last experiment before moving onto the next step: clinical trials (although these guys in Taiwan are already starting that). The whole experiment would probably take about 2 months, so give them some time. I hope/expect to see such result before summer !

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      Originally posted by Arashi
                      No, they could do it right away and I guess they are. It would make sense to do that last experiment before moving onto the next step: clinical trials (although these guys in Taiwan are already starting that). The whole experiment would probably take about 2 months, so give them some time. I hope/expect to see such result before summer !
                      The 2 months part I can accept:
                      • creation of follicle
                      • formation of hair beneath skin
                      • sprouting of hair above skin
                      • growth of hair to aesthetically acceptable and NOTICEABLE length (hair grows 1cm per month!)


                      So yeah, 2 months I can see it happening. Like I said earlier, trials need to start this year, not 5 years from now.

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                      • Tenma
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 172

                        We shouldnt care at all about the media. They dont know or care a fxuck about AGA.

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                        • PatientlyWaiting
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1637

                          Not even primary doctors or dermatologists(who study hair, skin, and nail diseases) care about MPB. Can't believe how many doctors don't even know the drug name for Propecia and Rogaine. When I say finasteride and minoxidil they're like "Huh, what, what is that?"

                          I feel like I have to teach them about hair loss terms every time I go there, which is why I stopped going.

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                          • Alias123
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 79

                            why are you all saying its 10+ years to a cure? a cure is subjective, in 80% of cases its a AA who works without sides like CB or histogen, and we are looking at 3-4 years there, and with a safe maintaining it means it solves everyone below NW3

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                            • Tenma
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 172

                              Originally posted by Alias123
                              why are you all saying its 10+ years to a cure? a cure is subjective, in 80% of cases its a AA who works without sides like CB or histogen, and we are looking at 3-4 years there, and with a safe maintaining it means it solves everyone below NW3
                              Couldnt agree more. The problem is that if drugs stop working after, let say 15-20 years, we'll need something like hair multiplication for long term maintenance and regeneration.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                Originally posted by Alias123
                                why are you all saying its 10+ years to a cure? a cure is subjective, in 80% of cases its a AA who works without sides like CB or histogen, and we are looking at 3-4 years there, and with a safe maintaining it means it solves everyone below NW3
                                It doesn't solve anything for an NW3 like me. CB, if it ever comes out, won't regrow my temples nor will it restore my hairline. I'll still have a decimated hairline and a framed face that looks like shit.

                                So no, I dont care for CB if we can have a legitimate cure just as quickly.

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