Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)

[joachim]

what about that? i mean the chinese matrigel culturing technique? was desmond able to find out more about this team? have they been on the conference? if not, how do we get more info about it? i just read through the article again, and it seems more than promising... we need to find out how far they are. according to dr. gardner nobody achieved more than 40% gene expression. but the article tells something different.

desmond, any further insight into this?

[cichlidfort]

after reading desmond's thread I would not be so optimistic. I think in my lifetime there will never be a cure where an NW7 > NW1.

No one is listening to your nonsense. Stop trolling. It's redundant.

[kobefan234]

I really think that you're wrong. After Aderans failed it looks like the basic research scientists rolled up their shirt sleeves and set out to get to the bottom of this disaster. There have been numerous advances in the science of cell biology in general (not just in connection with hair loss) since Aderans started their clinical trials. We are in a totally different scientific world now than we were when Aderens first started their trials. I really think that the basic researchers are getting close to cracking this nut.

after reading desmond's thread I would not be so optimistic. I think in my lifetime there will never be a cure where an NW7 > NW1.

[nameless]

Hair growth direction is pretty amazing and I don't know what the determining factors are with natural growing hair. I don't see how direction couldn't be an issue unless direction is determined by instructions in the surrounding skin. Take a look at your arm for instance to see all of the gradual changes in the direction of growth. The direction patterns remind me of the effect a magnetic field has on iron particles.

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I could be wrong but it's my recollection that when Jahoda injected his wife's cells into his arm all those years ago he said that the follicles he had began producing larger longer hairs instead of the short ones they used to produce for his arm. I think this means that the cells from his wife that he injected incorporated the follicles that are already in his arm and grew hairs through them.

On the other hand when you inject whole follicles they do not process through the follicles that are already indigenous to the location. They integrate into the skin where they are injected and they stand alone. The way they articulate hairs is decided by the artistry of the person who injected them. This can be very difficult when you are talking about 10s of thousands of follicles. I would much rather have cells injected than whole follicles.

[35YrsAfter]

I think that there are NO hair direction/growth issues when it comes to implantation of cells. I think that the hair growth issues pertain to whole follicles. I think that if you stick to implanting cells the cells will use the existing follicles to produce longer thicker hairs that grow in the same direction that they used to grow.

Hair growth direction is pretty amazing and I don't know what the determining factors are with natural growing hair. I don't see how direction couldn't be an issue unless direction is determined by instructions in the surrounding skin. Take a look at your arm for instance to see all of the gradual changes in the direction of growth. The direction patterns remind me of the effect a magnetic field has on iron particles.

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[joely]

Just everyone in general

[cichlidfort]

Show how angry you are at being bald by being offensive to strangers on the internet

Who are you talking to?

[joely]

Show how angry you are at being bald by being offensive to strangers on the internet

[nameless]

The research has been lean at best and the cancer dangers associated with these kind of treatments apparently require a yet to be discovered solution. Of course, there's also hair growth direction issues.

It will get solved eventually. Safely growing hair only appears difficult. Many researchers have their heads buried in the molecules and often miss the bigger picture.

Consider that hair transplant doctors placed unnatural plugs for around 30 years. I have had to deal with that personally. I went to the same clinic for a hairline refinement and they placed more plugs on top of the existing plugs. The result wasn't any better. I knew next to nothing about hair transplants then, but even I wondered why they didn't split the grafts and place single hairs on the hairline and between the plugs.

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I think that there are NO hair direction/growth issues when it comes to implantation of cells. I think that the hair growth issues pertain to whole follicles. I think that if you stick to implanting cells the cells will use the existing follicles to produce longer thicker hairs that grow in the same direction that they used to grow.

[Sixers]

Wow. The insults on this site all because of an opinion are ridiculous. Are we all that frustrated?

[cichlidfort]

LOL. still think my prediction is accurate.

Having common sense and being a book worm are two different things bud. All your posts are negative statements implying we won't see a cure for another 30 years. Literally, everytime you post that's the content of it. You obviously don't follow any of Desmond's threads and you don't understand the new coming advancements of the medical world. God you're going to be one HELL of a doctor...if you get passed med school that is

[35YrsAfter]

I hope I am wrong and you are correct. My predictions are based on the fact that the research and products available for MPB have been pathetic.

The research has been lean at best and the cancer dangers associated with these kind of treatments apparently require a yet to be discovered solution. Of course, there's also hair growth direction issues.

It will get solved eventually. Safely growing hair only appears difficult. Many researchers have their heads buried in the molecules and often miss the bigger picture.

Consider that hair transplant doctors placed unnatural plugs for around 30 years. I have had to deal with that personally. I went to the same clinic for a hairline refinement and they placed more plugs on top of the existing plugs. The result wasn't any better. I knew next to nothing about hair transplants then, but even I wondered why they didn't split the grafts and place single hairs on the hairline and between the plugs.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
forhair.com
Cole Hair Transplant
1070 Powers Place
Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
Phone 678-566-1011
email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

[kobefan234]

I really think that you're wrong. After Aderans failed it looks like the basic research scientists rolled up their shirt sleeves and set out to get to the bottom of this disaster. There have been numerous advances in the science of cell biology in general (not just in connection with hair loss) since Aderans started their clinical trials. We are in a totally different scientific world now than we were when Aderens first started their trials. I really think that the basic researchers are getting close to cracking this nut.

I hope I am wrong and you are correct. My predictions are based on the fact that the research and products available for MPB have been pathetic.

[nameless]

LOL. still think my prediction is accurate.

I really think that you're wrong. After Aderans failed it looks like the basic research scientists rolled up their shirt sleeves and set out to get to the bottom of this disaster. There have been numerous advances in the science of cell biology in general (not just in connection with hair loss) since Aderans started their clinical trials. We are in a totally different scientific world now than we were when Aderens first started their trials. I really think that the basic researchers are getting close to cracking this nut.

[nameless]

to play devils advocate, george dubya bush has a ba from harvard and an mba from yale.

lol