Histogen Update from Ziering Medical

[ryan555]

Ryan, I would like to know the specific details about this.

How did you contact Histogen, did you do it via email, phone, or their website? Who were you in contact with?

You can't just say "I spoke with Histogen and everything is okay."

I have an investment with them so I know people there. I don't have a lot of inside information or anything like that. I reached out for clarification when people started assuming that they were not moving forward. Anyway, I just wanted to pass on that Histogen are not shutting down or shelving HSC.

[fred970]

What will you do when you'll be NW5-6? Nothing? Just stay bald and miserable because you find the solutions we have today useless?

[hellouser]

You still have your frame do you? Wait until you turn slick, come back here and tell me the change is not dramatic.

Fill up the third front can completely change a person's look. Of course you don't know that because you're still a NW3.

I wouldn't know? Now you're being deliberately stupid.

[fred970]

You still have your frame do you? Wait until you turn slick, come back here and tell me the change is not dramatic.

Fill up the third front can completely change a person's look. Of course you don't know that because you're still a NW3.

[hellouser]

And you think a full-blown cure will only cost 140$ of course.

Look, you want your hair back or you don't. You can have 4000 grafts done for 8000€ by a top doc in Belgium. I think it's more than fair to truly get a good part of your hair back. But no, people just like to moan.

You don't think rationally, do you?

Alright fine, you get a good part of your hair back. Then what? You continue to to go bald, and the other areas continue to thin out and eventually turn slick bald. That single and very costly hair transplant doesn't do jack shit. Some guys don't even respond to Finasteride.

But hey, looks like your method is 'good enough' for everyone! Let's all throw our hands in the air with praise because you've figured out a way to do a hack job treatment for hair loss using archaic methods!

My god.

[fred970]

and the graphs, eventually falls out

Right, the "graphs". The grafts never fall out if they extracted from the safe zone. Why do you misinform people, do you want them to join you in your misery?

A lot of NW5-6 have had successful FUE's.

[DepressedByHairLoss]

I spoke to Histogen. HSC is NOT shelved and they are moving forward. As I presumed, Dr. Ziering was stating simply that he is not enrolling any more patients in his own sponsored trial. That does not mean they have given up, not by any stretch.

Your frustration is understood but I can personally attest to the credibility of the people running Histogen. They have a very good product and a great management team, these things just take a long time. Now everyone relax.

Amen to that first paragraph. I'd rather hear from Mrs. Naughton about how they are moving forward. They know that they have something potentially revolutionary and they're not just simply gonna shelve it.

I was on Histogen's website and came across this quote at the bottom of the page, which so succinctly and accurately sums up my view of the hair loss industry. If we had more people thinking the way that they think, and not just in it for the money, then we may actually have a treatment today that appeals to most hair loss sufferers.

The quote: "The hair loss market is both large and underserved, affecting over 40 million men and 21 million women in the United States alone, but with less than 7% of sufferers currently seek treatment due to the limitations of available options. HSC represents a potentially revolutionary new injectable treatment for the millions suffering from hair loss, offering benefits over daily-use, limited efficacy prescription products as well as invasive surgical treatments".

[locke999]

I spoke to Histogen. HSC is NOT shelved and they are moving forward. As I presumed, Dr. Ziering was stating simply that he is not enrolling any more patients in his own sponsored trial. That does not mean they have given up, not by any stretch.

Your frustration is understood but I can personally attest to the credibility of the people running Histogen. They have a very good product and a great management team, these things just take a long time. Now everyone relax.

Ryan, I would like to know the specific details about this.

How did you contact Histogen, did you do it via email, phone, or their website? Who were you in contact with?

You can't just say "I spoke with Histogen and everything is okay."

[greatjob!]

Would you stop with that picture, after a hundred reposts, it kind of stops being funny.

Hellouser is just a troll at this point, not really any point in arguing with him.

[ryan555]

How did a discussion about Histogen trials turn into an argument over the efficacy of hair transplants? I hate the Internet.

[Born To Be Bald]

I spoke to Histogen. HSC is NOT shelved and they are moving forward. As I presumed, Dr. Ziering was stating simply that he is not enrolling any more patients in his own sponsored trial. That does not mean they have given up, not by any stretch.

Your frustration is understood but I can personally attest to the credibility of the people running Histogen. They have a very good product and a great management team, these things just take a long time. Now everyone relax.

When did you speak to them? Did they go into any specifics?

[garethbale]

I spoke to Histogen. HSC is NOT shelved and they are moving forward. As I presumed, Dr. Ziering was stating simply that he is not enrolling any more patients in his own sponsored trial. That does not mean they have given up, not by any stretch.

Your frustration is understood but I can personally attest to the credibility of the people running Histogen. They have a very good product and a great management team, these things just take a long time. Now everyone relax.

Did they tell you this directly?

Don't mean to put a downer on it but that means nothing. A rep from Aderans informed a poster on here that Ji-Gami was continuing as normal even after it had been discovered is was being discontinued.

[Pentarou]

Would you stop with that picture, after a hundred reposts, it kind of stops being funny.



This is the most sensible remark in this thread. And as usual, it gets completely ignored. I guess a lot of people here are just addicted this feeling of hopelessness.

A combination of minoxidil, FUE, SMP, concealers and possibly beard grafts could probably "cure" 90% of hair loss sufferers. The 10% left being people like Joe from SI who will accept nothing less than getting their teen hair back.

Amazingly terrible advice.

FUE? Get the sides and back of your head scarred up, permanently removed of hair follicles, to be stuck on the top of your head, extremely sparsely and see-through, and you'll need to wear a hair system eventually once the rest of your hair, and the graphs, eventually falls out. Unless you're satisfied wearing a very thin (and increasingly thin) buzzcut for the rest of your life, of course.

Hair transplants are OK if you have a full-ish density NW2 or NW3 with no crown/vertex loss, and want your hair line lowered back to your youth, and are certain that your hair loss won't continue beyond Norwoods 2 or 3. Otherwise, they are just butchery.

[ryan555]

I spoke to Histogen. HSC is NOT shelved and they are moving forward. As I presumed, Dr. Ziering was stating simply that he is not enrolling any more patients in his own sponsored trial. That does not mean they have given up, not by any stretch.

Your frustration is understood but I can personally attest to the credibility of the people running Histogen. They have a very good product and a great management team, these things just take a long time. Now everyone relax.

[kissmyscalp]

LOL a top doc in belgium its 5 euros / graft.