George Cotsarelis and upenn new article today

[hellouser]

So why wouldnt George Cotsarelis want to solve it?

That's never been up for debate with me. My problem has always been with the SLOW progress.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Worth billions with garbage treatments. It'd be worth a lot more if there were legitimate treatments.

That said, him and Follica seriously need to hurry up.

So why wouldnt George Cotsarelis want to solve it?

[hellouser]

And to be honest, it is silly to believe that he has no motivation to create a product that is efficient and safe.

The hairloss industry is WORTH BILLIONS.

Worth billions with garbage treatments. It'd be worth a lot more if there were legitimate treatments.

That said, him and Follica seriously need to hurry up.

[BDDFreak]

Or maybe they just don't genuinely have a product that people would be happy with just yet. Progress is made and with each progress another milestone is set in stone. No one should belittle their progress just because they don't have a product to show for it because one day all that research is going to culminate into a product that we will use.

Are they taking forever? Yes. But I'm also sure they understand how much money there is to be made in this so it's not like they aren't trying their best. They're not using tax paper money, so why ppl feel entitled to a cure is actually beyond me. If u want to take initiative, and try to research and develop a cure to something that has been stumping people for thousands of years, take it through the FDA approval, and then market it...let's see how fast it gets done. I already know I'm going to backlash for "defending" the researchers but I'm just saying put your self in their shoes. Life isn't as simple as u guys seem to make it.

[yeahyeahyeah]

hairloss is hairloss

And to be honest, it is silly to believe that he has no motivation to create a product that is efficient and safe.

The hairloss industry is WORTH BILLIONS.

[yeahyeahyeah]

If thats NW2, than I am an NW5.

He's got SLIGHTLY receded temples... but nothing more.

hairloss is hairloss

[hellouser]

He has recession.

Norwood 2.

If thats NW2, than I am an NW5.

He's got SLIGHTLY receded temples... but nothing more.

[yeahyeahyeah]

No he does not:

He has recession.

Norwood 2.

[hellouser]

He has hairloss.

No he does not:

[yeahyeahyeah]

Note Cotsarellis has so much hair I think we should just clone him.

He has hairloss.

[Hair Bear]

I think some people are missing the point I was trying to make, the problem is not the sympathy factor its simply the fact that perhaps the real reason is that the medical community/society at large do not see this as a genuinely serious affliction or disease rather the perhaps see it as an opportunity for a prize, the kind that will insure your name is published... success in business rather than life.
I'm sure a lot more could be achieved if they all just worked together on this rather than chasing the prize, it reminds me of a mule chasing the dangling carrot on a string, the question is who is the biggest ass them or us?

I believe the entire industry needs a shake up and the vast landscape of scammers needs to be leveled and people need to be held accountable for their unsubstantiated claims and products which show no real world merit.

At the end of the day I have other goals in life but that does not mean I kick back and act as if this hair loss industry isn't a complete and utter joke.
Just like everyone I do have a bit of a self esteem problem due to my hair loss but when it comes to the hair loss industry my mind is not clouded by it.
My comments are made purely from personal experience or observations I have made.

Ask yourself, Would it really hurt Follica to release a picture of their progress to the public?

[robodoc]

Hair loss is not seen as a condition not by the medical society at large or the general public therefore people with this condition are made to feel as if they don't belong into any sort of group but instead just a laughing stock by society whilst the medical community just gives you that unsympathetic pat on the back and gives you that kinda 'walk it off look' as if you are making a big deal out of nothing, meanwhile there are those "scientists" that just see as cash register that they can withdraw money from whenever they please.

I'm not in any way suggesting that Follica is such a company but there are a great deal of them out there meanwhile the governing groups such as the TGA, FDA stroke their beards and cluck their tongues.
There is good reason for people to be pissed off and if you have been around long enough you will certainly have more than enough reason to be frustrated and disillusioned with the scientific and medical community.

The fact is no one has proven within reason that they have any sort of tangible product which shall relieve us from this situation.

Am I bitter? perhaps!
But you have to admit the hair loss industry is disgrace, if only they would all work together rather than against each other they might achieve something within the next 5 years and I don't mean the magical 5 year number they tend to throw out every few years, if I were to apply the perception of time at which the hair loss community works at then I wouldn't have aged a day in the past 20 years.

Well, I aM bitter. These researchers keep posting their great success and where are they? In the land of theory and tease. As the always negative
Hellouser (I jest) says maybe a study here and there keeps the money coming their way. Note Cotsarellis has so much hair I think we should just clone him.

[robodoc]

Pessimistic posters should note that science does not owe anyone a favour. It will take as long as it takes. You should be thankful that research is actually being done at all in this field.

Perhaps we should be thankful for toilet paper too?

[robodoc]

Pessimistic posters should note that science does not owe anyone a favour. It will take as long as it takes. You should be thankful that research is actually being done at all in this field.

Give me a freekin break. Science owes nothing to no one, mate. It can however do something for humanity and grow some freekin hair on our heads since so many are afflicted. You think? You think living a life of baldness makes anyone happy? Do you think fixing that has moral value? I do.

[robodoc]

Thanks for sharing. Lets hope this wnt/beta catenine stuff is the catalist we need to regain a full head of hair.

Still, news regarding Cotsarelis seems to run under some schedule since 2007. They appear always at the end of the year.

Fascinating stuff and this means what? They can keep cooking in the lab for another year or two? I am with Hellrouser, is the medical community that inept they can't cure or find a remedy for AA that afflicts over 50% of men. Sure it does not meet the criteria of saving lives but how about fixing something that affects the morale of millions and millions of people? Can't that be more socially or morally acceptable than the usual comparison to the cure for cancer?