piloxll:new israeli method combines wounding+ zi/cu ions to destroy dht in the scalp

[toretto]

I think its interesting that Arashi backs up his claims on why he believes pilox is a scam. Yet, others who believe in pilox just slam him with insults and call him a liar. If this is a decent product then why do people not back up their claims? I haven't seen that much evidence to believe in pilox yet other than a few questionable pictures, an Israeli hair salon, and a sketchy russian website...

I don t call him liar at all..i m just saying that his role is worthless because people is able to see and realize if something fits or not,even without his continuous attacks against everybody

[Dan26]

because 99.9% of this industry is full of scammers who are selling false hope... hence "THE BALD TRUTH".

We're seeing a new trend of scammers who seem to be coming from countries outside of Europe and America these days.

Until their "cure" is proven (i.e. proven to work in thousands of cases), with a huge western mainstream media attention & the whole balding community are flying over for treatment in droves -it will always be nothing but a scam.

+1000000

Hair loss sufferers are so irrational, it's frightening.

We are all way better off airing on the side of over-skepticism until something is PROVEN.

Arashi at one point I did think you were jumping the gun very slightly as far as judging piloxll (not even on the facts/info and even opinion you presented but more so the tone in your posts). And that tone will certainly illicit an emotional response from emotional people. At this point however your tone is completely justified and anyone who has a problem with it is not using their head.

[Kudu]

I think its interesting that Arashi backs up his claims on why he believes pilox is a scam. Yet, others who believe in pilox just slam him with insults and call him a liar. If this is a decent product then why do people not back up their claims? I haven't seen that much evidence to believe in pilox yet other than a few questionable pictures, an Israeli hair salon, and a sketchy russian website...

[Julian P]

but in this case would be more easy going to open forums, not the close ones. But ok i understand your point.

You ask what yoram do for living, he work here http://www.ihc-russia.ru/

If you do your "homework" in that site, you'll have a lot of ammo lol.

How do you know he works there ? I don't see him listed in the "expert"-section.

[JJJJrS]

LOL, there's so much stuff at IHC Russia (Yoram's clinic) that I don't even know where to start (use google (chrome) to translate, cause the interesting stuff is in russian). But if you really believe accupuncture and reflexology can get your hair back, you should probably buy Pilox

So, what do you think about Yoram now, NeedhairASAP ? Still a honest researcher in your book ? Maybe if you start massaging your feet tonight and stick some needles in your ears, you'll have some hair back in 2 months man. But your friends Yoram and vraf can fill you in how to do that exactly. Good luck !

Holy shit, they're advocating medical leeches on that ****ing site! This Yoram is the ultimate snake oil salesman. He makes Nigam look like a saint in comparison.

[UK_]

True!but it isn't up to him to say if something works or not.Even at this stage when there isn't even a device!!!All of us has eyes and free will and most of all we are be able to discern things and take decisions,we aren t all dumbs as probably he might think.if this device were a scam as arashi says,it doesnt make difference cause it will hit the market,no matter what he says..But only at that time we ll be able to say if it s a scam or not..

I never said it was up to him, but he's free to connect the dots and make forum posts.

You say we're "not all dumbs" but you'd be surprised to hear that the market for false hope in the hair loss industry actually measures in the billions when people (all people) should only be spending money on THREE products:

1. Propecia (after researching side effects & making decision)
2. Minoxidil (after researching side effects & making decision)
3. Nizoral (after researching side effects & making decision)

[toretto]

because 99.9% of this industry is full of scammers who are selling false hope... hence "THE BALD TRUTH".

We're seeing a new trend of scammers who seem to be coming from countries outside of Europe and America these days.

True!but it isn't up to him to say if something works or not.Even at this stage when there isn't even a device!!!All of us has eyes and free will and most of all we are be able to discern things and take decisions,we aren t all dumbs as probably he might think.if this device were a scam as arashi says,it doesnt make difference cause it will hit the market,no matter what he says..But only at that time we ll be able to say if it s a scam or not..

[UK_]

Man,do you have a life???Why do u act as a "white knight"?who gave u this role?for u everything is scam,lies etc..the only thing u do is spreading out negativity on anybody.let me tell u this,nobody cares about your thoughts we don't care if you r 100%sure that something is a scam because you r nobody in order to say that something is legit or not.As for pilox,do the sell something?No!So what's your problem?For sure you r a depressed guy without a girl and friends that try to achieve a kind of fame at least on internet but pls don't bother us with your blablabla theories because lot of people like (that read the forum everyday but doesn't partecipate) is f*****ng fed up with your ego.

because 99.9% of this industry is full of scammers who are selling false hope... hence "THE BALD TRUTH".

We're seeing a new trend of scammers who seem to be coming from countries outside of Europe and America these days.

Until their "cure" is proven (i.e. proven to work in thousands of cases), with a huge western mainstream media attention & the whole balding community are flying over for treatment in droves -it will always be nothing but a scam.

[toretto]

LOL, there's so much stuff at IHC Russia (Yoram's clinic) that I don't even know where to start (use google (chrome) to translate, cause the interesting stuff is in russian). But if you really believe accupuncture and reflexology can get your hair back, you should probably buy Pilox

So, what do you think about Yoram now, NeedhairASAP ? Still a honest researcher in your book ? Maybe if you start massaging your feet tonight and stick some needles in your ears, you'll have some hair back in 2 months man. But your friends Yoram and vraf can fill you in how to do that exactly. Good luck !

Man,do you have a life???Why do u act as a "white knight"?who gave u this role?for u everything is scam,lies etc..the only thing u do is spreading out negativity on anybody.let me tell u this,nobody cares about your thoughts we don't care if you r 100%sure that something is a scam because you r nobody in order to say that something is legit or not.As for pilox,do the sell something?No!So what's your problem?For sure you r a depressed guy without a girl and friends that try to achieve a kind of fame at least on internet but pls don't bother us with your blablabla theories because lot of people like (that read the forum everyday but doesn't partecipate) is f*****ng fed up with your ego.

[534623]

LOL

hairloss

made my day

Without any doubts ...

[bananana]

arashi,

god, take it easy.
You have like 20 consecutive posts here, we appreciate your concern, but leave it be for now. Time will tell everything.

[NeedHairASAP]

LOL, there's so much stuff at IHC Russia (Yoram's clinic) that I don't even know where to start (use google (chrome) to translate, cause the interesting stuff is in russian). But if you really believe accupuncture and reflexology can get your hair back, you should probably buy Pilox

So, what do you think about Yoram now, NeedhairASAP ? Still a honest researcher in your book ? Maybe if you start massaging your feet tonight and stick some needles in your ears, you'll have some hair back in 2 months man. But your friends Yoram and vraf can fill you in how to do that exactly. Good luck !

lol dude relax. You're legit losing your mind over trying to prove this thing wrong. All I've said from the start is let's keep an open, but skeptical mind. Your obsessed with prematurely determining this is a scam.

r e l a x

We'll know soon enough. This website doesn't really change my mind one way or the other. I can't imagine any sane person who would immediately dump Pilox because of this website, or anything else thus far.

[Arashi]

LOL, there's so much stuff at IHC Russia (Yoram's clinic) that I don't even know where to start (use google (chrome) to translate, cause the interesting stuff is in russian). But if you really believe accupuncture and reflexology can get your hair back, you should probably buy Pilox

So, what do you think about Yoram now, NeedhairASAP ? Still a honest researcher in your book ? Maybe if you start massaging your feet tonight and stick some needles in your ears, you'll have some hair back in 2 months man. But your friends Yoram and vraf can fill you in how to do that exactly. Good luck !

[Arashi]

but in this case would be more easy going to open forums, not the close ones. But ok i understand your point.

You ask what yoram do for living, he work here http://www.ihc-russia.ru/

If you do your "homework" in that site, you'll have a lot of ammo lol.

Wow, awesome find !! I see indeed the relation with Yoram's IHC. There's tons of "interesting" products there LOL

*EDIT* wow that site is a real treasure They even mention accupuncture as basis of the science LOL And Yoram's clinic (IHC) presents reflexology as a viable treatment for hairloss

Thanks Porta, you really made my day

[NeedHairASAP]

but in this case would be more easy going to open forums, not the close ones. But ok i understand your point.
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Good point.

Also, why would they go through patenting and 5 iterations of the product, and 6 years of R&D.....just to sell a snake oil? Could they really cover the last 6 years of investment in 2-6 months of sales... about how long they'd have before the bad reviews started to pile in?

Arashi's theory doesn't add up, yet.

To me, it's still worth following this story. We will eventually see. I don't understand Arashi's obsession with prematurely identifying it as a scam. Very strange.