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  • 35YrsAfter
    Doctor Representative
    • Aug 2012
    • 1418

    #91
    Originally posted by hellouser
    I wasn't asking about Histogen, I was asking about your claims about regeneration.

    Can you tell us if Dr. Cole has a NW6 to NW1 case based on regeneration with PRP or not?
    PRP is not a regenerative product.

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    • 35YrsAfter
      Doctor Representative
      • Aug 2012
      • 1418

      #92
      Originally posted by HairBane
      I didn't mean you, I meant Dr. Cole. He's pretty much out of a job if an injectable cure happens.

      We need innovation like that, not stagnant FUT dragons afraid of losing their earnings.
      There are enough men scarred by bad hair transplant surgery performed by butchers over the years to keep Dr. Cole busy well into retirement. I doubt Histogen or any other injectable will make scars, plugs and wrong hair angles magically go away. BTW. Dr. Cole doesn't perform FUT. Dr. Cole only performs FUE.

      35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
      forhair.com
      Cole Hair Transplant
      1045 Powers Place
      Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
      Phone 678-566-1011
      email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
      I am not a doctor and the content of my posts are my opinions, not medical advice.
      Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        #93
        Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
        There are enough men scarred by bad hair transplant surgery performed by butchers over the years to keep Dr. Cole busy well into retirement. I doubt Histogen or any otherinjectable will make scars, plugs and wrong hair angles magically go away. BTW. Dr. Cole doesn't perform FUT. Dr. Cole only performs FUE.

        35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
        forhair.com
        Cole Hair Transplant
        1045 Powers Place
        Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
        Phone 678-566-1011
        email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
        I am not a doctor and the content of my posts are my opinions, not medical advice.
        Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
        I've got diabetic friends whom have been injecting all their life. I've never seen a single scar on them.

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          #94
          Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
          PRP is not a regenerative product.
          So then logically Dr. Cole doesn't get regeneration and NW6 - NW1 has never happened unless a patient's donor hair had a large area of a density of 150 grafts per sq. centimetre.

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          • 35YrsAfter
            Doctor Representative
            • Aug 2012
            • 1418

            #95
            Originally posted by hellouser
            I've got diabetic friends whom have been injecting all their life. I've never seen a single scar on them.
            Is English your first language? You totally misunderstood what I stated. I didn't say injections cause scarring.

            35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
            forhair.com
            Cole Hair Transplant
            1045 Powers Place
            Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
            Phone 678-566-1011
            email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
            I am not a doctor and the content of my posts are my opinions, not medical advice.
            Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              #96
              Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
              Is English your first language? You totally misunderstood what I stated. I didn't say injections cause scarring.

              35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
              forhair.com
              Cole Hair Transplant
              1045 Powers Place
              Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
              Phone 678-566-1011
              email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
              I am not a doctor and the content of my posts are my opinions, not medical advice.
              Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
              English is actually my THIRD language and I'm quite confident your comprehension of it is inferior to mine. If you're going to try and ridicule me with a thinly veiled insult, you may want to do it using an account that doesn't represent Dr. Cole's business clinic on a public forum.

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              • 35YrsAfter
                Doctor Representative
                • Aug 2012
                • 1418

                #97
                Originally posted by hellouser
                English is actually my THIRD language and I'm quite confident your comprehension of it is inferior to mine. If you're going to try and ridicule me with a thinly veiled insult, you may want to do it using an account that doesn't represent Dr. Cole's business clinic on a public forum.
                Then explain to me how you interpreted my statement:
                "There are enough men scarred by bad hair transplant surgery performed by butchers over the years to keep Dr. Cole busy well into retirement. I doubt Histogen or any other injectable will make scars, plugs and wrong hair angles magically go away. BTW. Dr. Cole doesn't perform FUT. Dr. Cole only performs FUE."

                How did you read from the above quoted post, that I even implied, injections cause scarring?

                35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                forhair.com
                Cole Hair Transplant
                1045 Powers Place
                Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                Phone 678-566-1011
                email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                I am not a doctor and the content of my posts are my opinions, not medical advice.
                Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
                Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 11-29-2013, 12:51 PM.

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4419

                  #98
                  Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
                  Then explain to me how you interpreted my statement:
                  "There are enough men scarred by bad hair transplant surgery performed by butchers over the years to keep Dr. Cole busy well into retirement. I doubt Histogen or any other injectable will make scars, plugs and wrong hair angles magically go away. BTW. Dr. Cole doesn't perform FUT. Dr. Cole only performs FUE."

                  How did you read from the above quoted post, that I even implied, injections cause scarring?

                  35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                  forhair.com
                  Cole Hair Transplant
                  1045 Powers Place
                  Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                  Phone 678-566-1011
                  email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                  I am not a doctor and the content of my posts are my opinions, not medical advice.
                  Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
                  Semantics. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/semantics

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                  • FearTheLoss
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1581

                    #99
                    Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
                    Then explain to me how you interpreted my statement:
                    "There are enough men scarred by bad hair transplant surgery performed by butchers over the years to keep Dr. Cole busy well into retirement. I doubt Histogen or any other injectable will make scars, plugs and wrong hair angles magically go away. BTW. Dr. Cole doesn't perform FUT. Dr. Cole only performs FUE."

                    How did you read from the above quoted post, that I even implied, injections cause scarring?

                    35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                    forhair.com
                    Cole Hair Transplant
                    1045 Powers Place
                    Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                    Phone 678-566-1011
                    email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                    I am not a doctor and the content of my posts are my opinions, not medical advice.
                    Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
                    Hell, you did misunderstand him. I realize why everyone's tensions are high as this disease can be quite frustrating, but I have no doubts that doctor Cole is one of the best in his field and that is because of how much he cares about his patients. He offers prp acell as a stand alone treatment at the price it costs him to do it, because it isn't completely proven. He is one of few surgeons in the USA that are trying to improve the field instead of just raking in money and performing mediocre results.

                    34YrsAfter, could you give a little more information on Dr. Cole's claims? Is he planning on presenting evidence that he is, in fact, getting regeneration at the numbers he says he is? Case studies?

                    Also, if the average patient is getting 50% regeneration, why is he still so cautious treating younger patients? with 50% regeneration, he could give just about everyone at least decent results wtih full coverage.

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                      Hell, you did misunderstand him. I realize why everyone's tensions are high as this disease can be quite frustrating, but I have no doubts that doctor Cole is one of the best in his field and that is because of how much he cares about his patients. He offers prp acell as a stand alone treatment at the price it costs him to do it, because it isn't completely proven. He is one of few surgeons in the USA that are trying to improve the field instead of just raking in money and performing mediocre results.
                      That's fine, I read it as him meaning that scarring will be a thing of the past. Also his use of '"There are enough men scarred by bad hair transplant surgery.." had me thinking of the double meaning of 'scarred' (not the literal meaning) which also looks like 'scared' suggesting that men back away from FUE/FUT surgeries.

                      Doesn't matter, if he's going to get paid by Dr. Cole to solicit on BTT, he shouldn't be coming off as an ass in the process.

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                      • 35YrsAfter
                        Doctor Representative
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1418

                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        That's fine, I read it as him meaning that scarring will be a thing of the past. Also his use of '"There are enough men scarred by bad hair transplant surgery.." had me thinking of the double meaning of 'scarred' (not the literal meaning) which also looks like 'scared' suggesting that men back away from FUE/FUT surgeries.

                        Doesn't matter, if he's going to get paid by Dr. Cole to solicit on BTT, he shouldn't be coming off as an ass in the process.
                        Respect is a two-way street.

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
                          Respect is a two-way street.
                          No comment.

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                          • FearTheLoss
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1581

                            35YrsAfter, could you answer my previous question please.

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                            • Tenma
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 172

                              If this Cole guy is getting 50% regen, he solved the donor problem for 90% of cases and should be all over the news by now.

                              So, my question is: were are the pics ilustrating the espectacular paradigm shifting advance in hair restoration this Dr. has been able to achieved?

                              At least Wesley is waiting for his trials to finish before speaking about percents.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                Originally posted by Tenma
                                If this Cole guy is getting 50% regen, he solved the donor problem for 90% of cases and should be all over the news by now.

                                So, my question is: were are the pics ilustrating the espectacular paradigm shifting advance in hair restoration this Dr. has been able to achieved?

                                At least Wesley is waiting for his trials to finish before speaking about percents.
                                I asked this question and didn't receive a straight answer. I'm still waiting for a proper answer... would like to see NW6 -> NW1

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