wtf is going with HISTOGEN phase 2b?

[FearTheLoss]

Earlier today I asked Dr. Cole if Histogen presented anything new at the October, 2013 hair restoration surgeon's conference in San Francisco. He said they were a no-show. I personally hope that something better than Propecia, Avodart, Rogaine and PRP will come our way soon. Ideally, I'd like to see things move a LOT faster than they are. There have actually been many studies reporting success. I know there were some cancer concerns related to injecting bioengineered stem cell concoctions into scalps. The FDA approval process can sometimes be stalled by any number of technical issues.

As for now, advancements in regenerative medicine appear to be having the greatest impact on the future of hair restoration.

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Is Dr. Cole continuing to research donor regeneration with ACell use? and is he planning on providing proof?

Thanks, FTL

[whatsgoingon]

didn't a video from a histogen's conference of some sort say , and I paraphrase, "HSC is built off of dermatitis methods that are already available "

so my question is, since there are community trials for rollers and RU, why not do some research into what they are using and do our own trials?

Of course I understand there is more than just that, but i think the roundabout cost for HSC is 6k per application. But again that was based off of a 2010/11 vid I viewed. Anyways, just a thought.

[35YrsAfter]

Who cares what Cole thinks about Histogen.

Obviously you don't.

People who become fans of companies in the early stages of product marketing need to realize that doctors such as Dr. Cole will support and utilize effective proven products such as ACell, PRP, hyaluronic acid, ATP and HypoThermosol. Although Dr. Cole has developed many of his own surgical instruments, he is not directly involved in the manufacture and development of the aforementioned medical products. Safe and effective medical products get the green light here.

We want better results for patients, so if it's Aderans or Histogen, bring it on. As safe, proven and effective products become available, Dr. Cole will consider including them in his hair restoration surgery practice. Dr. Cole has a degree in Biology and I have found his assessments to be trustworthy and accurate.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
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Cole Hair Transplant
1045 Powers Place
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Phone 678-566-1011
email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
I am not a doctor and the content of my posts are my opinions, not medical advice.
Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

[hellouser]

People who become fans of companies in the early stages of product marketing need to realize that doctors such as Dr. Cole will support and utilize effective proven products such as ACell, PRP, hyaluronic acid, ATP and HypoThermosol.

But none of those products are actually either effective or proven.

[HairBane]

People who become fans of companies in the early stages of product marketing need to realize that doctors such as Dr. Cole will support and utilize effective proven products such as ACell, PRP, hyaluronic acid, ATP and HypoThermosol. Although Dr. Cole has developed many of his own surgical instruments, he is not directly involved in the manufacture and development of the aforementioned medical products. Safe and effective medical products get the green light here.

lol. Does he also use laser comb and trx2?

Dr. Cole can say what he wants about HSC, it's already proven strong efficacy in trials and shows a lot of promise as a cure for early norwoods. He's probably just threatened by things like this.

[hellouser]

lol. Does he also use laser comb and trx2?

Dr. Cole can say what he wants about HSC, it's already proven strong efficacy in trials and shows a lot of promise as a cure for early norwoods. He's probably just threatened by things like this.

More than likely the case. And about time too; out with the old, in with the new. There's really no point in offering ineffective treatments when superior stuff can be used. Would anyone go for an FUT if Pilofocus really did have regeneration?

I mean, it'd take a while before it would catch on but....

[35YrsAfter]

But none of those products are actually either effective or proven.

They have in our studies. For instance ACell without hyaluronic acid proved to be about 75% less effective in promoting follicle regeneration. PRP for instance, caught the attention of hair restoration physicians because it is proven to promote healing. Hair transplant doctors began using PRP because it promotes healing and discovered that in some patients, it increased hair shaft diameter.

[hellouser]

They have in our studies. For instance ACell without hyaluronic acid proved to be about 75% less effective in promoting follicle regeneration. PRP for instance, caught the attention of hair restoration physicians because it is proven to promote healing. Hair transplant doctors began using PRP because it promotes healing and discovered that in some patients, it increased hair shaft diameter.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
Cole Hair Transplant
1045 Powers Place
Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
Phone 678-566-1011
I am not a doctor and the content of my posts are my opinions, not medical advice.
Please feel free to call or email me with any questions.

Can you show us a case from Dr. Cole of an NW6 going back to NW1 with 40 grafs per sq. centimetre?

[35YrsAfter]

Can you show us a case from Dr. Cole of an NW6 going back to NW1 with 40 grafs per sq. centimetre?

Can you show me a case where Histogen, Aderans, or ANYONE has taken a NW6 going back to NW1 with 40 grafts per sq. centimeter?

We continue with ACell studies in order to improve follicle regeneration from its current average of about 50%. At this current stage, ACell preserves donor hair.

[hellouser]

Can you show me a case where Histogen, Aderans, or ANYONE has taken a NW6 going back to NW1 with 40 grafts per sq. centimeter?

I wasn't asking about Histogen, I was asking about your claims about regeneration.

Can you tell us if Dr. Cole has a NW6 to NW1 case based on regeneration with PRP or not?

[35YrsAfter]

lol. Does he also use laser comb and trx2?
He's probably just threatened by things like this.

I could certainly use more hair. I don't feel threatened in any way by a major breakthrough in hair restoration. I want Histogen to be wildly successful. I hope the employees of Histogen all become billionaires. Success will happen one day and it will either put hair transplant doctors out of business or radically change their approach to hair restoration. When this does happen and really bald guys start showing up at work with thick, full heads of hair, the restoration industry will be forever changed. Histogen may possibly be on to something. Last year, they couldn't present convincing proof of anything.

I saw the film "Tucker". This type of thing does happen. To my knowledge there is no hair transplant "Mafia" fighting a cure so doctors can stay in business.

[HairBane]

I could certainly use more hair. I don't feel threatened in any way by a major breakthrough in hair restoration. I want Histogen to be wildly successful. I hope the employees of Histogen all become billionaires. Success will happen one day and it will either put hair transplant doctors out of business or radically change their approach to hair restoration. When this does happen and really bald guys start showing up at work with thick, full heads of hair, the restoration industry will be forever changed. Histogen may possibly be on to something. Last year, they couldn't present convincing proof of anything.

I didn't mean you, I meant Dr. Cole. He's pretty much out of a job if an injectable cure happens, so obviously he'd be threatened by it. I don't know what you do but I assume you're not a surgeon so why would you be threatened?

I've seen some pretty convincing pictures and figures from Histogen, but they're still in trials and haven't even done a dosing trial yet. We need innovation like that, not stagnant FUT dragons afraid of losing their earnings.

[hellouser]

I didn't mean you, I meant Dr. Cole. He's pretty much out of a job if an injectable cure happens, so obviously he'd be threatened by it. I don't know what you do but I assume you're not a surgeon so why would you be threatened?

I've seen some pretty convincing pictures and figures from Histogen, but they're still in trials and haven't even done a dosing trial yet. We need innovation like that, not stagnant FUT dragons afraid of losing their earnings.

Dr. Cole has made plenty of cash in his lifetime off of hair loss sufferers. Time for a new market to emerge. I really have no sympathies for businessmen; because thats why they ultimately are. They're in it for the money.

[35YrsAfter]

I wasn't asking about Histogen, I was asking about your claims about regeneration.

Can you tell us if Dr. Cole has a NW6 to NW1 case based on regeneration with PRP or not?

We didn't develop or create extracellular matrix products (ACell). Regeneration is not solely Dr. Cole's claim. ACell is approved by the FDA as a regenerative product. Well-known doctors for example, Dr. Cooley, Dr. Mwamba, and Dr. Wesley acknowledge ACell's regenerative properties. If you have a problem with ACell's claims, you should contact the Food and Drug Administration.

It's like a race car driver making a statement that a motor oil product reduces friction. If people want proof, go the manufacturer of the oil additive, not the race car driver. We publish studies to improve treatments for patients.

[35YrsAfter]

Dr. Cole has made plenty of cash in his lifetime off of hair loss sufferers. Time for a new market to emerge. I really have no sympathies for businessmen; because thats why they ultimately are. They're in it for the money.

If you worked here and saw the number of pro-bono surgeries Dr. Cole performs on men who have been screwed up by other doctors and can't afford surgery, it might just change your cynical tone.