Follica

[Pentarou]

After reading some of what has been posted on these forums, I wrote an email to follica and to the university of pennsylvania. They confirmed that there are currently no trials underway related to Dr. Costarellis research. Whatever it says on that puretech site is clearly related to past research that they did, or simply not up to date on the reality of the situation. I mean for real, that graph is jenky as shit anyway, I feel you hellouser, but I don't think these follica people are even within a decade of putting anything out. I very highly doubt that there will be a drug to cure baldness, maybe in the next 50 years they will figure out enough to cure it via gene therapy or cloning hairs and then transplanting (the tsuji people are I think probably the most advanced in this respect) , but let's be serious, I am a NW2 with some thinning in the crown, as all my uncles all were at 31 yrs old, but they were all bald as shit by the time they were in their mid forties.

Most of you guys on here seem to be balder than I am, so my advice is to stop wasting time on these forums, accept your genetics, and make something useful of your lives. My uncles are all bald and successful and married and happy. Hair loss is the stupidest shit ever and totally sucks, but we are so completely far away science wise to curing genetically driven conditions that trying to dermaroll your head etc etc is pretty ridiculous. It's gonna fall out soon anyway. Propecia is poison for your body, i took it for a week and my balls hurt like a mother****er, plus headaches and general lack of clarity on all days that i've taken it. if you can take that shit without sides go for it, it works, but i have a feeling most people just dont realize how it affects the brain until they stop, and someday will pay the price for ****ing with your enzymes.

Hair transplants are great for those with a receding hairline, you guys are blessed, or for those just wanting to have a tuft of wisp on their domes, but for those with full baldness in their genes it's really a pretty crap option. better to just shave it off or rock the balding, most women over 40 dont give a shit anyway, and plenty of younger ladies like shaved heads. If you're ugly, well **** it, most people are, better to get rich and useful than waste your time on here. that's my two cents. And trust me, I want a cure as much as anyone else, I'm just saying this cause whoever is out there banking on clowns like follica and histogen to save their hair is probably wasting their energy. that kind of science has many decades to go.

That's just an unecessarily longwinded variant on the 'shave your head, get a tan, do weightlifting' type post we see all the time on hair loss forums.

[Thinning87]

After reading some of what has been posted on these forums, I wrote an email to follica and to the university of pennsylvania. They confirmed that there are currently no trials underway related to Dr. Costarellis research. Whatever it says on that puretech site is clearly related to past research that they did, or simply not up to date on the reality of the situation. I mean for real, that graph is jenky as shit anyway, I feel you hellouser, but I don't think these follica people are even within a decade of putting anything out. I very highly doubt that there will be a drug to cure baldness, maybe in the next 50 years they will figure out enough to cure it via gene therapy or cloning hairs and then transplanting (the tsuji people are I think probably the most advanced in this respect) , but let's be serious, I am a NW2 with some thinning in the crown, as all my uncles all were at 31 yrs old, but they were all bald as shit by the time they were in their mid forties.

Most of you guys on here seem to be balder than I am, so my advice is to stop wasting time on these forums, accept your genetics, and make something useful of your lives. My uncles are all bald and successful and married and happy. Hair loss is the stupidest shit ever and totally sucks, but we are so completely far away science wise to curing genetically driven conditions that trying to dermaroll your head etc etc is pretty ridiculous. It's gonna fall out soon anyway. Propecia is poison for your body, i took it for a week and my balls hurt like a mother****er, plus headaches and general lack of clarity on all days that i've taken it. if you can take that shit without sides go for it, it works, but i have a feeling most people just dont realize how it affects the brain until they stop, and someday will pay the price for ****ing with your enzymes.

Hair transplants are great for those with a receding hairline, you guys are blessed, or for those just wanting to have a tuft of wisp on their domes, but for those with full baldness in their genes it's really a pretty crap option. better to just shave it off or rock the balding, most women over 40 dont give a shit anyway, and plenty of younger ladies like shaved heads. If you're ugly, well **** it, most people are, better to get rich and useful than waste your time on here. that's my two cents. And trust me, I want a cure as much as anyone else, I'm just saying this cause whoever is out there banking on clowns like follica and histogen to save their hair is probably wasting their energy. that kind of science has many decades to go.

Show us the email

[eqvist]

Most of you guys on here seem to be balder than I am, so my advice is to stop wasting time on these forums, accept your genetics, and make something useful of your lives. My uncles are all bald and successful and married and happy. Hair loss is the stupidest shit ever and totally sucks, but we are so completely far away science wise to curing genetically driven conditions that trying to dermaroll your head etc etc is pretty ridiculous. It's gonna fall out soon anyway. Propecia is poison for your body, i took it for a week and my balls hurt like a mother****er, plus headaches and general lack of clarity on all days that i've taken it. if you can take that shit without sides go for it, it works, but i have a feeling most people just dont realize how it affects the brain until they stop, and someday will pay the price for ****ing with your enzymes.

Hair transplants are great for those with a receding hairline, you guys are blessed, or for those just wanting to have a tuft of wisp on their domes, but for those with full baldness in their genes it's really a pretty crap option. better to just shave it off or rock the balding, most women over 40 dont give a shit anyway, and plenty of younger ladies like shaved heads. If you're ugly, well **** it, most people are, better to get rich and useful than waste your time on here. that's my two cents. And trust me, I want a cure as much as anyone else, I'm just saying this cause whoever is out there banking on clowns like follica and histogen to save their hair is probably wasting their energy. that kind of science has many decades to go.

So true, itīs starting to get extremely clear that good treatments are not in our future. We do not even know the real reason and that sickies me the most!

[sdsurfin]

follica is not in trials

After reading some of what has been posted on these forums, I wrote an email to follica and to the university of pennsylvania. They confirmed that there are currently no trials underway related to Dr. Costarellis research. Whatever it says on that puretech site is clearly related to past research that they did, or simply not up to date on the reality of the situation. I mean for real, that graph is jenky as shit anyway, I feel you hellouser, but I don't think these follica people are even within a decade of putting anything out. I very highly doubt that there will be a drug to cure baldness, maybe in the next 50 years they will figure out enough to cure it via gene therapy or cloning hairs and then transplanting (the tsuji people are I think probably the most advanced in this respect) , but let's be serious, I am a NW2 with some thinning in the crown, as all my uncles all were at 31 yrs old, but they were all bald as shit by the time they were in their mid forties.

Most of you guys on here seem to be balder than I am, so my advice is to stop wasting time on these forums, accept your genetics, and make something useful of your lives. My uncles are all bald and successful and married and happy. Hair loss is the stupidest shit ever and totally sucks, but we are so completely far away science wise to curing genetically driven conditions that trying to dermaroll your head etc etc is pretty ridiculous. It's gonna fall out soon anyway. Propecia is poison for your body, i took it for a week and my balls hurt like a mother****er, plus headaches and general lack of clarity on all days that i've taken it. if you can take that shit without sides go for it, it works, but i have a feeling most people just dont realize how it affects the brain until they stop, and someday will pay the price for ****ing with your enzymes.

Hair transplants are great for those with a receding hairline, you guys are blessed, or for those just wanting to have a tuft of wisp on their domes, but for those with full baldness in their genes it's really a pretty crap option. better to just shave it off or rock the balding, most women over 40 dont give a shit anyway, and plenty of younger ladies like shaved heads. If you're ugly, well **** it, most people are, better to get rich and useful than waste your time on here. that's my two cents. And trust me, I want a cure as much as anyone else, I'm just saying this cause whoever is out there banking on clowns like follica and histogen to save their hair is probably wasting their energy. that kind of science has many decades to go.

[hellouser]

So all of his speculation is based around the idea that everyone who works at follica must be on linkedin or other social networking and since he can't find any one on those sites then no one works at follica any more? People need to stop trying to be amateur private investigators.

This is true. Certain employers may ask you to keep employees away from being in the public, a friend of mine was restricted from have a facebook account online (government job, although thats understandable). However, we all know that employment laws in both USA and Canada are a joke and they favor the employer, not the employee. So if they suggest taking off Follica related info, its pretty much guaranteed they'll get their request because here, you don't really need a solid reason to fire someone and employees are too effing scared of having backbone or losing their job.

This Mr. Z guy is useless, pay no attention to the troll nor to Garza's interview, both of their opinions are completely USELESS since Puretech Ventures confirms on their own site where Follica stands in clinical human trials: HALF WAY. So, Phase II.

End of discussion.

[Dazza]

Three posts, now.

So typical forum made up bullshit it is then!

Fantastic.

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

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[greatjob!]

Three posts, now.

So all of his speculation is based around the idea that everyone who works at follica must be on linkedin or other social networking and since he can't find any one on those sites then no one works at follica any more? People need to stop trying to be amateur private investigators.

[clarence]

If that Quote was true, it would be over the internet by now. Doing a internet search brought up nothing at all on the subject, just his two posts.

Unless Mr Z would like to post his source we can rule this out as just typical forum bullshit.

Three posts, now.

Well, let me preface this post with the following: I have no inside info on this, so, nobody should be getting worked up over my post. However...

Over the years i was able to locate a lot of the scientists working at Follica on linkedin. I dug quite a bit and found numerous scientists associated with Follica. Being that they are a small company, and never had a very large staff (i think i recall reading staff count was under 20), i feel i was able to find a decent percentage of scientists who've worked for them. As of now, not one of the scientists that i tracked work for Follica any longer. Furthermore, if you try to find someone who has Follica as the current employer (at the staff level), you come up empty handed. There are none that i can find, which wasn't the case just a short while ago.

Interestingly, most of the employees left within the same 1 - 1.5 year window of time. This includes the VP of pharma development and the VP of Research - which to me, is the biggest "tell" that nothing research-wise is happening with them now; other than shoring up their intellectual property with patent filings. That they haven't filled these vacancies in the upper level postions is not encouraging. Companies will usually not operate a research department without a head guy in place i.e. VP.

They were supposed to have been engaged in multiple avenues of research outside of MPB. I know for a fact they were looking at hair removal at some point in the past. What happened to that and How does that go on if you don't have a VP of Research or pharma development? The simple answer is, that it doesn't go on, it stops.

I'm not saying they're dead as a company. I just think that, at the moment, nothing is happening. And it could be due to funding, could roadblock in their research, or maybe their tech works great and now they shopping it around to a bigger player? I don't know.

My hope is that they've got something great and are working out a deal now to transfer it to a bigger company that will have the cash to push their wounding/lithium protocol through phase III and to continue their line of research with the PGD2 and FGF9 angles. That's my dream, becasue if that's not the case, then it could be back to the phase I drawing board, or worse...lights out.

[moore]

To tell you the truth I'd prefer to rescue existing follicles first, then possibly increase density as needed. This also because:

- If a new follicle is created where or near an existing one was present (albeit miniaturized) I would not be so sure that the new hair shaft can grow correctly

- Newly generated follicles of course should have the same "genetic properties" of existing ones depending on the site (texture, growth cycles duration, etc). And these values I guess are different on each person, even on the same site. So a peek at existing follicles could be beneficial in any case.
Maybe Replice + Follica then.

As I wrote once, we should be able to have as much hair as we want, where we want it.

[Dazza]

It will have to wait, for a looooong time, except if this guy is lying when he says

If that Quote was true, it would be over the internet by now. Doing a internet search brought up nothing at all on the subject, just his two posts.

Unless Mr Z would like to post his source we can rule this out as just typical forum bullshit.

[Artha]

I don't know who is Mr.Z but this is coming from no where, I won't believe that!

[clarence]

Ahh bliss. It sounds like the wounding is the way, just wish they would hurry up. My hair can't wait.

It will have to wait, for a looooong time, except if this guy is lying when he says

Follica has released all of it's scientific staff. The remaining people involved are either part of the advisory board (which is distinct from the company, and don't play a role in day to day operations of the company), part of the venture capital firm (again no role in day to day), or a CEO or VP. No one reamins to do any research. There is nobody to oversee clinical trials, and handle all the day to day stuff involved with that. So, how is it that anything would be happening? who would do the work? I don't think it looks good at all.

[gainspotter]

I don't care for the photos. I just want to know if the hairs that Follica created are terminal. If they are, then there's really nothing left to be done for men with MPB. Simply repeat the process from Follica until the desired results are met. The hairs aren't rejuvinated, they're brand new. Unlike Histogen which may or may not work better with repeat sessions, it basically relies on existing follicles. The same as Replicel. Follica's method is MUCH more exciting... and the methodology could easily be replicated by us, there's no need for any stem cell crap, just get the right timing, wounding and substances injected and VOILA. Hair loss solved.

Ahh bliss. It sounds like the wounding is the way, just wish they would hurry up. My hair can't wait.

[hellouser]

I don't care for the photos. I just want to know if the hairs that Follica created are terminal. If they are, then there's really nothing left to be done for men with MPB. Simply repeat the process from Follica until the desired results are met. The hairs aren't rejuvinated, they're brand new. Unlike Histogen which may or may not work better with repeat sessions, it basically relies on existing follicles. The same as Replicel. Follica's method is MUCH more exciting... and the methodology could easily be replicated by us, there's no need for any stem cell crap, just get the right timing, wounding and substances injected and VOILA. Hair loss solved.