(CB-03-01 Vehicle Research) PhD Student in Chemistry

[tornadox]

No you couldn't because it's patented by COSMO.

He can selling it to Cosmo.

[lilpauly]

Yeah I see. Then DMSO needs to be looked into further. There is a thread over on another forum regarding this:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=103957

but the thread went stagnant. Maybe there is some merit to using DMSO as part of the composition of the vehicle. I shall look into this more.

The thread went stagnant cuz the cb was the wrong form! Kane recently got the right form which dissolves . The gb cb will hopefully get the right form from the lab they are dealing with

[adam k]

He can selling it to Cosmo.

Thats not the issue tornadox. COSMO probably have a good working vehicle right now or have good ideas as I type (they can employ a team of world class experienced chemists). The issue is that they are taking too long with the snail pace research and trials and by the time it is released we will have progressed too far in our disease. And historical experience shows that something will probably happen to Cosmo and a product might never be released at all. Therefore as history has shown to be against us we must take upon the role ourselves.

A little quote that I like that keeps me going:

Frodo - 'I wish the Ring had never come to me, I wish none of this had happened'

Gandalf - 'So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.'

[adam k]

The thread went stagnant cuz the cb was the wrong form! Kane recently got the right form which dissolves . The gb cb will hopefully get the right form from the lab they are dealing with

OH right! Has propylene glycol/oleyl alcohol been tried with form 3?

[hellouser]

OH right! Has propylene glycol/oleyl alcohol been tried with form 3?

Once I get my CB, I can trial Oleyl/PG. I've got 500ml of Oleyl in my closet waiting to be used for CB

[clandestine]

adam k; Iron dragon will soon be selling a premixed solution of 50% propylene glycol / 50% ethanol for their CB; what are your thoughts on this?

[yan]

Guys is there a possibility that CB doesn`t work in the sense of its impossible to find a vehicle which can deliver CB to the hair follicle?

I mean it is proven that CB works 100% once reaching the hair follicle and we also know that CB`s molecular weight is around 400, so it should be possible to find a suitable vehicle if we just invest enough time and effort, no?

[simba]

The thread went stagnant cuz the cb was the wrong form! Kane recently got the right form which dissolves . The gb cb will hopefully get the right form from the lab they are dealing with

A few guys said that cb didn't work on guys because the vehicle was wrong, is that true or was it just that the cb was the wrong form(or both)? Does the vehicle really matter that much?

[lilpauly]

A few guys said that cb didn't work on guys because the vehicle was wrong, is that true or was it just that the cb was the wrong form(or both)? Does the vehicle really matter that much?

Both . The vehicle is game changer , Remember Cosmo didn't use ethanol in the trials , some say including me it harms the cb. Form 1 cb does. It dissolve in anything

[adam k]

Once I get my CB, I can trial Oleyl/PG. I've got 500ml of Oleyl in my closet waiting to be used for CB

I didn't know form III had not been tried in PG/OL. So this may work we just don't know yet? It seems like a good combination of solvents and a good foundation and it could always be optimised by adding more stuff to it etc.

adam k; Iron dragon will soon be selling a premixed solution of 50% propylene glycol / 50% ethanol for their CB; what are your thoughts on this?

Clan I have a gut feeling that the ethanol has too few carbon atoms and a longer chain alcohol is required such as PG/OL. I may be wrong though.

My more immediate worry is stability issues. I have not yet delved into this properly but there seem to be a few parts of the molecule susceptible to stability problems but again I have just started my research yesterday I need to do more reading.

Clan btw are you the same Clan on another forum that idolises Gandy? lol

[clandestine]

Thanks for the reply Adam, appreciate the insights.

I'm on PHG, SAGA, and here. So, likely not me with the whole worshipping Gandhi thing.

[Javert]

It is my firm belief that the only prospect for us sufferers in the next couple of years is either regeneration of donor with scarless FUE.. Or if we take matters into our own hands. No company is going to save us anytime soon, that's for sure . And each day of suffering cannot be discounted, we shouldn't have to live like this for several more years

+1

[adam k]

Thanks for the reply Adam, appreciate the insights.

I'm on PHG, SAGA, and here. So, likely not me with the whole worshipping Gandhi thing.

No probs bro. The guy has the same nick as you so I wondered if it was you. Actually its David Gandy the male model lol. Oh what I wouldn't give to have hair like him. Life is a genetic lottery it is unfair.

[DanWS]

No probs bro. The guy has the same nick as you so I wondered if it was you. Actually its David Gandy the male model lol. Oh what I wouldn't give to have hair like him. Life is a genetic lottery it is unfair.

Hi adam k I'd like to say thanks for doing this and I wish you the best in your efforts (for all of us). Do you have any kind of schedule for what you hope to carry out/achieve and when by? Thanks again.

[hellouser]

*small update*

Just sent payment to Kane for 2 grams of CB. Now its just a matter of time of when it gets shipped and how long until it arrives.

Can't wait!