custom growth factors

[lilpauly]

I'm most interested in these growth factors at the moment.

Like Hellouser mentioned, after a dermarolling session these growth factors could be huge. Keep thinking about pulling the trigger, but I think it's best I wait it out. Histogen like results would amazing, especially if we can get some hairline growth.

Dermarolling + Growth Factors + CB (correct vehicle) = Game Changer

Yes man hold back and wait tell people starting reporting , we will know approx 6 weeks how good they are

[DesperateOne]

Yes man hold back and wait tell people starting reporting , we will know approx 6 weeks how good they are

How do people know that CB is the correct vehicle? We need to get that growth factor and fast!!! How can those chemical engineers take so freaking long to just copy something that is happening in the body, it's not like they have to invent it. Just see what it's made of, clone it and they should be done.

and don't give me that BS about it being hard, that's what you studied for, Software engineering is hard and you don't hear people complaining about how hard it is.

[hellouser]

How do people know that CB is the correct vehicle? We need to get that growth factor and fast!!! How can those chemical engineers take so freaking long to just copy something that is happening in the body, it's not like they have to invent it. Just see what it's made of, clone it and they should be done.

and don't give me that BS about it being hard, that's what you studied for, Software engineering is hard and you don't hear people complaining about how hard it is.

Software engineering is easy actually. Computer engineering is hard.

Stem Cell research takes a dump on both combined as we barely know anything about the human body in the grand scheme of things. Regenerative medicine is just starting to get its wings, it'll be some time before it flies.

[lilpauly]

Software engineering is easy actually. Computer engineering is hard.

Stem Cell research takes a dump on both combined as we barely know anything about the human body in the grand scheme of things. Regenerative medicine is just starting to get its wings, it'll be some time before it flies.

I am not a engineer lol

[lilpauly]

I think we should start a track progress thread for the growth factors

[Dan26]

I think we should start a track progress thread for the growth factors

I will take baselines and start a thread as soon as I get the gf's ~~~

[DesperateOne]

Let's say that his works really well, how much would they be able to drop the price for the regular consumer? I want to try it but right now it seems like they're charging quite a bit. Also, how long does that $239.00 solution last? A month?

[hellouser]

Let's say that his works really well, how much would they be able to drop the price for the regular consumer? I want to try it but right now it seems like they're charging quite a bit. Also, how long does that $239.00 solution last? A month?

lilpauly says up to a year

[lilpauly]

lilpauly says up to a year

If u apy to the hairline only 30 grams would last a very long time. I apply topicals to the hairline only and they last forever

[DesperateOne]

lilpauly says up to a year

Thanks bro, for some reason I just got chills of happiness running down my neck. I am getting a good feeling about all this we are doing this month with dermaroller, this and all. It may not be the cure but I think this will be enough for now. WE CAN DO THIS!!!

[lilpauly]

Let's say that his works really well, how much would they be able to drop the price for the regular consumer? I want to try it but right now it seems like they're charging quite a bit. Also, how long does that $239.00 solution last? A month?

Well growth factors are very very expensive, this basically has the same ingredients as histogen , they also take forever to produce. I highly suggest u wait for people in trials to post results

[DesperateOne]

Well growth factors are very very expensive, this basically has the same ingredients as histogen , they also take forever to produce. I highly suggest u wait for people in trials to post results

Alright thanks man, will wait for you guys to finish. On a tangent note, but not completely irrelevant, do you think this would work for growing a mustache or a beard? It should be the same theory, right?

[hellouser]

Thanks bro, for some reason I just got chills of happiness running down my neck. I am getting a good feeling about all this we are doing this month with dermaroller, this and all. It may not be the cure but I think this will be enough for now. WE CAN DO THIS!!!

I've been reading more about the dermarolling method in regards to the wounding theory from follica, I think theres a lot more to explore but I think it NEEDS to be pointed out that we're very, VERY close to finally cracking it. We just need to keep pushing experimentation with wounding of all sorts of devices. Dermarolling with some wounding with 1.5mm microneedles most likely wont get us anywhere near NW0 but it should help. I think we need to wound more. One member on another forum pointed out this:

For Follica style wounding you need a wound that is deep enough to remove the epidermis and reach the dermis. It has to large enough so that it can't close on itself. The skin faces a decision, "Do I become a follicle or do I become skin?". By promoting the correct molecular signals, the idea is that we can push the intrafollicular epithelial stem cells (Not HF bulge cells btw). Two are known to upregulate this process - Wnt and FGF9.

Which is more or less what mitosis is: cell splitting, but not actually splitting cells in half, but the cells actually replicate themselves. If you cut yourself, cells in your skin should multiply to cover up the damaged area. But here's the problem: we're not doing that at the follicle level!!

[lilpauly]

Hellouser off topic what do u think of fgf9 I might add this to my regimen

[hellouser]

Hellouser off topic what do u think of fgf9 I might add this to my regimen

Something tells me it might be the holy grail to follicle neogenesis. However, I'd first like to see what results people might get with dermabrasion alone, then with the growth factors and finally, potentially the most potent substance of all, FGF-9.

I think all of our efforts should be put into the dermarolling/dermabrasion methods and make a SERIOUS attempt to crack it. Get some guys on heavy wounding on the skin, see what happens when certain topicals are applied and hopefully watch hair GROW.

KO1 knows LOTS about this, I'd get his input on this.

I'm 30 next year, I don't want to spend my 30s balding/receding anymore. Greying hair is going to be cured next year, but bald men are going to continue being demonized by other men but especially by women. I'm fvcking tired of time, time to get busy with figuring out Follica's method and doing something about this ourselves.