custom growth factors

[DesperateOne]

Do you think I could still get results from Growth Factors without dermarolling? Perhaps could I use emu oil and Retin-A to increase absorption instead?

Emu oil is useless for absorption, maybe you can mix it with lipogaine.

Also, guys give this thread a rest, paul will keep on updating us as will the rest. It has been said countless times that we can't expect any results in a month, give it four at a minimum.

[pat]

hi stay thick

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Do you think I could still get results from Growth Factors without dermarolling? Perhaps could I use emu oil and Retin-A to increase absorption instead?

[pat]

low dose fin, minox, RU (i ran out though), and GF's....i use GF's on only once side of hairline and minox/GF on the other side so i can compare..i need to wait a couple weeks and take more and better pictures and make an actual thread with detailed explanations.

If anything I do feel for the first time i am noticnig somethign and its on my left temple which are the pics i posted on saga

Oh ok thanks. I wasn't sure if you were using minox & fin or not. I think I got you confused with another poster who tried CB or GF but didn't use fin or minox. I'm personally not using it just yet

[lilpauly]

LilPauly: can you answer the below questions for me man? I ordered the GF but have questions regarding application.

1) How many days a week are you applying and how much? Are you measuring?
2) Have you noticed regrowth from using the GF? Your temples always look the same to me and I know you're using other topicals. Have you noticed additional improvement upon using this?
3) Are you storing the GF's in the fridge/freezer after use?
4) Ar you applying the GF's after using a 1.5mm dermaroller?

Your answers would be much appreciated.

hi stay thick
1. i apply the growth factors at least 4x week and i dont measure
2. i lost alot of ground when i stopped treatments over the summer when i got sick. my regimen is at full strength and i believe my results are synergy
3. store the growth factors in the refrig
4. i apply the growth factors are i dermaroll.

i wish u success!

[StayThick]

Correct the nano solution plays a big role , dr n used growth factors post surgery .

LilPauly: can you answer the below questions for me man? I ordered the GF but have questions regarding application.

1) How many days a week are you applying and how much? Are you measuring?
2) Have you noticed regrowth from using the GF? Your temples always look the same to me and I know you're using other topicals. Have you noticed additional improvement upon using this?
3) Are you storing the GF's in the fridge/freezer after use?
4) Ar you applying the GF's after using a 1.5mm dermaroller?

Your answers would be much appreciated.

[Dan26]

may i ask what you're currently on? saw your pics/post on SAGA

low dose fin, minox, RU (i ran out though), and GF's....i use GF's on only once side of hairline and minox/GF on the other side so i can compare..i need to wait a couple weeks and take more and better pictures and make an actual thread with detailed explanations.

If anything I do feel for the first time i am noticnig somethign and its on my left temple which are the pics i posted on saga

[pat]

Nothing to note unfortunately man...

may i ask what you're currently on? saw your pics/post on SAGA

[Dan26]

Nothing to note unfortunately man...

[clandestine]

Dan how's your hair feel with the GF's; anything to note?

[pat]

Yes to all that pat. (studies used dermaroller, in fact there are some separate papers on how dermarolling can effectively aid penetration for large MW substances)

Perfect, thanks for the clarification. Also whenever you have time I would really appreciate if I could see a picture of the glass jar you mentioned the GFs come in

[Dan26]

did they dermaroll in the Korean trials for it to work? sorry I never read/saw those trials before

also, this might be a dumb question but growth factors is considered a growth stimulant, correct? compared to stuff like RU or CB which are mainly anti-androgens?

Yes to all that pat. (studies used dermaroller, in fact there are some separate papers on how dermarolling can effectively aid penetration for large MW substances)

[pat]

Dude the same growth factors that Kane had produced was in the Korean trials . They work , hoping in the next few weeks people start reporting results

did they dermaroll in the Korean trials for it to work? sorry I never read/saw those trials before

also, this might be a dumb question but growth factors is considered a growth stimulant, correct? compared to stuff like RU or CB which are mainly anti-androgens?

[lilpauly]

So you don't think the nano solution for GFs allow for a good enough penetration or no? Do you think derma-rolling is a MUST if using GFs? Or could something like emu oil help in the GFs getting absorbed?

Dude the same growth factors that Kane had produced was in the Korean trials . They work , hoping in the next few weeks people start reporting results

[pat]

I understand that GF's alone have no chance to penetrate skin, but they do pretend that their encapsulation method/delivery system allows it. I just ordered a derma roller as well anyway... will give that a try. Thanks for the feedback !

So you don't think the nano solution for GFs allow for a good enough penetration or no? Do you think derma-rolling is a MUST if using GFs? Or could something like emu oil help in the GFs getting absorbed?

[lilpauly]

I understand that GF's alone have no chance to penetrate skin, but they do pretend that their encapsulation method/delivery system allows it. I just ordered a derma roller as well anyway... will give that a try. Thanks for the feedback !

Correct the nano solution plays a big role , dr n used growth factors post surgery .