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  • StayThick
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 624

    #61
    Originally posted by rdawg
    Stuff worries me too much to try it myself, it's very early in the research of these things, even though they are very promising.

    I applaud you guys for taking the risk though! hopefully it works out!
    Same. I did ask more than a valid question, but I'd be just way to nervous to do this without knowing the possible risks.

    My hair isn't worth possibly tumors, etc.

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    • lilpauly
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1084

      #62
      It's safe they did it in trials

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      • Jcm800
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 2614

        #63
        Originally posted by lilpauly
        It's safe they did it in trials
        How long was that.. A month or two?!

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        • lilpauly
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 1084

          #64
          Originally posted by Jcm800
          How long was that.. A month or two?!
          I'm not certain bro I will find out. There is risk to any experimentals but growth factors seem to one of the safer ones compared to ru, asc , etc

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          • Jcm800
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 2614

            #65
            Cool man, seems interesting, does it help in hairline loss do you know?

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              #66
              Originally posted by Jcm800
              Cool man, seems interesting, does it help in hairline loss do you know?
              We won't know until its tested on men. The growth factors were trialed on women. Men typically respond better to hair loss treatments.

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              • Jcm800
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 2614

                #67
                Originally posted by hellouser
                We won't know until its tested on men. The growth factors were trialed on women. Men typically respond better to hair loss treatments.
                Ok thanks, have to see how it goes then..

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                • StayThick
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 624

                  #68
                  Hope you guys post us on your progress with this. I'm following this thread closely.

                  Lilpauly, not to go off topic, but do you still use Capillogain? I didn't see much from 5 months use.

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                  • lilpauly
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1084

                    #69
                    Yes man they must ......

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                    • Cob984
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 526

                      #70
                      Im gona buy this too,
                      this is the gf nano solution 30g correct?

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                      • Cob984
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 526

                        #71
                        Just ordered it as well

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                        • StayThick
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 624

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Cob984
                          Im gona buy this too,
                          this is the gf nano solution 30g correct?
                          How much is everyone applying? Anybody use it for the first time yet?

                          I'm interested in seeing what this can do after a dermarolling session...

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                          • Imalmostbald
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 32

                            #73
                            I ordered too, will post my findings here. Going to use it 2-3 times a week , 2 ml a day (1 time in the morning 1 time evening) with a dermaroller of 0.5mm. I am probably going to induce some wounding too with a 1.5mm and right after apply these growth factors.

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4419

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Imalmostbald
                              I ordered too, will post my findings here. Going to use it 2-3 times a week , 2 ml a day (1 time in the morning 1 time evening) with a dermaroller of 0.5mm. I am probably going to induce some wounding too with a 1.5mm and right after apply these growth factors.
                              lilpauly mentioned once a week application should suffice. Also, if youre going to go down the experimental route, I would recommend to try deep dermarolling/wounding FIRST and then applying the growth factors as the penetration through skin will be MUCH easier and perhaps (and most likely) a synergistic effect between wounding/healing/growth factors.

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                              • Imalmostbald
                                Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 32

                                #75
                                Originally posted by hellouser
                                lilpauly mentioned once a week application should suffice. Also, if youre going to go down the experimental route, I would recommend to try deep dermarolling/wounding FIRST and then applying the growth factors as the penetration through skin will be MUCH easier and perhaps (and most likely) a synergistic effect between wounding/healing/growth factors.
                                Yeah i will, but i dont know if wounding with a 1.5mm and the next day after dermarolling with a 0.5mm wont interfere with the healing process etc, have to read about that. I know 0.5mm is enough for those growth factors to reach up past the skin and exert a biological activity. I do agree that wounding could have a synergistic effect with growth factors + minoxidil (b catenin expression, vccg turn off >fstl1 >bmp4 antagonist, pge2 inducer, damn minox is great lol!) + will be using RU too. So my regimen will be RU + growth factors + minoxidil+ wounding.

                                I want to get better results as the study, and thats why i will be using it 2-3 times a week 2 times a day. I'm not worried myself about cancer risk or other side-effects, as this seems to be a pretty balanced growth factor mixture. Plus the dosage is pretty safe too imo, just look at that regranex gel with a PDGF concentration of 100ug/ml. Passed the fda though it has a risk warning, we are talking about a single exogenous growth factor directly applied to a wound on a mega dosage. This is a way loser dose + more balanced.

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