Dermarolling Community Trial

[Borealis]

Yeah, 1.5mm. Just finished my 5th session, time flies eh!?

I will take pictures at the end of the 12 weeks as it's quite hard to notice a difference as my hair isn't buzzed. (I have baselines)

[clandestine]

Yeah, 1.5mm. Just finished my 5th session, time flies eh!?

I will take pictures at the end of the 12 weeks as it's quite hard to notice a difference as my hair isn't buzzed. (I have baselines)

Okay great. And you're using in conjunction with minox, correct? Rolling once a week I imagine?

And sure, re: pictures. Make some to take some initially, for baseline, or now if you haven't already.

Good luck.

[Borealis]

I'm using with Minox, except within 24 hours after rolling. Rolling once a week.

I took some baseline photos before my first session.

[hellouser]

What's interesting is this:

Apparently Follica is working on a wounding device, so perhaps a Dermaroller isn't the best solution and as said before by others is just a poor mans solution. I'm fine with that as long as there is growth.

Dr. Cotsarelis also jokingly said a few years ago in an interview about the wounding theory that this doesn't mean people should go out and use a cheese grater on their scalp. Which is funny because it kind of sounds like he's hinting that that is the kind of wounding necessary without destroying existing follicles.

Also, there was mention that wounding and hair growth does increase with current known compounds. But what is that compound? As mentioned in his later papers, Minoxidil was used with wounding to create new follicles. We know that elevated levels of PGE2 induce FGF-9.

- Does anyone have any source that says Minoxidil induces PGE2 FOR SURE?
- Does anyone know of any substance that specifically induced FGF-9 levels?

There are a couple members on other forums which are about to go BALLS OUT with wounding: 2-3mm dermarollers and more needles (one even mentioned 1080 needles).

[Hair87]

Can any one tell how much time should we wait after dermarolling session to shampoo the scalp?

[walrus]

Can any one tell how much time should we wait after dermarolling session to shampoo the scalp?

I've seen recommendations to wash your hair before you roll, this will also soften the skin.

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

if you increase skin elasticity with water it wont be wounded that much, the main goal is to injury the skin

I've seen recommendations to wash your hair before you roll, this will also soften the skin.

[hellouser]

if you increase skin elasticity with water it wont be wounded that much, the main goal is to injury the skin

I was thinking the same thing, that softening the skin may not actually PIERCE it.

I just dermaroll on dry skin now.

[NeedHairASAP]

If study said you dont need to cause bleeding, why are people trying to draw blood?

[hellouser]

If study said you dont need to cause bleeding, why are people trying to draw blood?

Because at 1.5mm, if youre actually dermarolling thorough, 1.5mm *will* draw blood.

Cotsarelis' study does suggest that deeper wounding may be necessary, so perhaps 1.5mm isn't enough. It is a start though.

[StayThick]

Hellouser: Keep us posted on your results. It looks like you and I are targeting the same area of the hairline. I'm seeing little sprouts of hair personally, but far to early to see if this will turn terminal.

Hoping I can recover some ground along the hairline. That would be a game changer for me.

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

remember all the key is to wound the cells.

to injury the area. to make the cells get the signal of healing and promote these important stuff for hair follicles ...


so if yo dont hit hard its not a try

[greatjob!]

I just got my roller today, gonna roll for the first time tonight. Man I hope this can increase my density even just a little bit.

[clandestine]

Can someone please clarify here.

On the Dr. Roller website, for one derma roller it says: Dr Roller (Lasts approximately 3 months each).

One derma roller only lasts for 3 months? I really don't understand.
Would it be better to order from Nanogen, Amazon?

[hiilikeyourbeard]

can this be done if you're not using minox? what else could it be used in conjunction with? i'm only on fin