Dermarolling Community Trial

[walrus]

In this case then 1.5mm should not be used cause it will cause bleeding for sure. Better to use the 0.5mm and not more than 1mm as it wont cause any bleeding but only mild redness.

I think that it could actually be variable depending on the part of your head. I feel 0.5 works fine on my temples, but for rest where I have hair, >1mm might be more effective.

[chimera]

In this case then 1.5mm should not be used because it will cause bleeding for sure because its beyond the epidermis layer. Better to use the 0.5mm and not more than 1mm as it wont cause any bleeding but only mild redness.

The study just says "mild erythema", but at the same time it says 1.5 mm.

[Chromeo]

The study just says "mild erythema", but at the same time it says 1.5 mm.

Exactly. Anyone using the 1.5 mm will experience some degree of bleeding, I would think. I used a 0.5 mm roller for months on and off, and it only very rarely drew blood. The 1.5 mm roller I purchased a few weeks back causes bleeding every time I use it.

[chimera]

Dermaroller has been used for ages as a hairloss treatment, but it has never gave the kind of results the study we're following suggest. 1.5 mm has always been considered an extreme lenght for the scalp, and as such, it has almost never been used seriously.

Maybe the reason nobody has ever saw this kind of result is because nobody wanted to go that deep before. And maybe, we like it or not, we have to go this deep if we want those results.

[the_dude78]

Dermaroller has been used for ages as a hairloss treatment, but it has never gave the kind of results the study we're following suggest. 1.5 mm has always been considered an extreme lenght for the scalp, and as such, it has almost never been used seriously.

Maybe the reason nobody has ever saw this kind of result is because nobody wanted to go that deep before. And maybe, we like it or not, we have to go this deep if we want those results.

And also people have mostly been using it every day to increase absorption, and not letting the wound healing process take place at all.

[Chromeo]

Dermaroller has been used for ages as a hairloss treatment, but it has never gave the kind of results the study we're following suggest. 1.5 mm has always been considered an extreme lenght for the scalp, and as such, it has almost never been used seriously.

Maybe the reason nobody has ever saw this kind of result is because nobody wanted to go that deep before. And maybe, we like it or not, we have to go this deep if we want those results.

Totally agree with this. The whole reason I purchased a 0.5 mm roller back in the day was because 0.5 mm was the length they suggested for the purpose of enhancing topical absorption. I imagine the majority of others were given the same advice and would be using 0.5 mm needles instead of 1.5 mm. We really need to try 1.5 mm needles for a sustained period to see what happens. I am reasonably optimistic.

[Buster]

I am NW5 and am taking part in this rolling experiment, but this picture is getting me a bit concerned.

Is anyone else worried that the results to this experiment could be ruined by a bunch of paranoid guys who are rolling their forehead/temples and claiming that it hasn't "regrown" any hair, when there was NONE THERE to begin with.

Just a thought...

But you didn't wake up one day to realize you were a NW5, did you? We are trying to recover the hair we have already lost, as well as prevent it from going any further. And add to that the diffuse hair loss sufferers. If we all waited until we were NW5 to do something about our hair loss the majority of us would be out of luck.

[GreyGhost1864]

We all here are passionate. The wounding cycle is needed for new hairs. I think 10 days is better and will conform to that after 12 weeks. To say wounding causes tumors or aka cancer. If we did this everyday then I would say yes. You disrupt any cycle over and over then the cycle can change to negative.
Ghost

[chimera]

This is a pic from the cotsarelis study:



You wound deep enough, and new follicles get formed (of course noone of us has the means to go that deep, but it shows that we really need to make harm).

Anyway, right now there's this crazy dudes called squeegee and princessrambo on *** who say are going to try 2.5 mm. We should stick to 1.5 mm, but we should also see how 2.5 goes for them.

[chimera]

well here's the ****ing pic

http://postimg.org/image/6kssklpj9/

[chimera]

I imagine the majority of others were given the same advice and would be using 0.5 mm needles instead of 1.5 mm.

Yeah man. In fact, if you try to buy a dermaroller right now for hair loss, everywhere you look you wiil find that they say 0.5 mm. Some may say 0.75, others may even say 1.0. but that's rare, and it never goes beyond that.

[NeedHairASAP]

I wonder why you dont see regeneration in typical fue, if wounding is the key.

I assume its the extent of the wound.

[walrus]

I wonder why you dont see regeneration in typical fue, if wounding is the key.

I assume its the extent of the wound.

The theory is that it has to be weekly, not just a one off event.

[Borealis]

I have to say, conservatively that I am seeing definite results. Existing hair is without a shadow of a doubt, noticably thicker and there is definite regrowth.

It's very promising, but just so, so painful :'(

[clandestine]

I have to say, conservatively that I am seeing definite results. Existing hair is without a shadow of a doubt, noticably thicker and there is definite regrowth.

It's very promising, but just so, so painful :'(

1.5mm roller, or other?

Also, pictures?