Dermarolling Community Trial

[Dan26]

Norwoods are so impatient....the higher nw the worse they are!

[greatjob!]

Yes it is obvious that parts of the study would be missing, No company would give out proprietary information.

Can you please explain to me what company put out this study, what proprietary information they could have left out, and how they could possibly stand to make any money off of this research?

[bigentries]

I don't think there is some evil conspiracy here

If the study turns out to be wrong (and all is pointing towards it) I would just blame bias. They already said they offer the treatment at their clinic, but I don't think they have any plans to commercialize it further

Edit: And where are the pictures? People are claiming others are seeing results, but I've only seen one guy posting pics. Where is the photographic evidence? People were supposed to take the experimentation seriously this time

[hellouser]

Can you please explain to me what company put out this study, what proprietary information they could have left out, and how they could possibly stand to make any money off of this research?

A lot of you guys need to read thoroughly:

Stop giving out misinformation. This isn't a company. It's a research study sponsored by a hospital in India.

[Stocione]

I don't think there is some evil conspiracy here

If the study turns out to be wrong (and all is pointing towards it) I would just blame bias. They already said they offer the treatment at their clinic, but I don't think they have any plans to commercialize it further

Edit: And where are the pictures? People are claiming others are seeing results, but I've only seen one guy posting pics. Where is the photographic evidence? People were supposed to take the experimentation seriously this time

This isn't the only forum on the web and on this topic, it's the furthest behind - despite the many, many posts. I'm not going to link to other hair loss forums here so just take a look for yourself.

[clandestine]

Stoicone;

Thanks for being the voice of reason in this thread lately.

[bigentries]

This isn't the only forum on the web and on this topic, it's the furthest behind - despite the many, many posts. I'm not going to link to other hair loss forums here so just take a look for yourself.

I've been at the other big 3 forums that start with "hair" and don't see any progress pics in their dermarolling threads, *** is basically this same topic, even the same usernames

Are the private forums seeing anything worth to report?

[hellouser]

Are the private forums seeing anything worth to report?

Oddly enough, theres very little movement with dermarolling in the private forums.

[greatjob!]

A lot of you guys need to read thoroughly:

Is that directed at me? Because I wasn't responding to his comment, I agreed with it. I was responding to this comment:

Yes it is obvious that parts of the study would be missing, No company would give out proprietary information.

That's why I quoted it.

[Pentarou]

My point is this, why post negative thoughts when you legitimately don't have a leg to stand on? I'd understand if we were at the three month mark or even at the two month mark with no one reporting anything. Instead, those individuals with a shaved head and at the six week mark ARE reporting positive things. Most of the rest of us either aren't that far into treatment or don't have shaved heads.

Most of scepticism is because, essentially, there have been many experimental trials carried out by forum users over the years with no success. Trials that may have been theoretically 'correct' but turned out to not work in practice, for whichever number of countless possible reasons. Also, in the eyes of many, this trial has a 'too good to be true' element about it, as in the amount of regrowth from a common off-the-shelf treatment combined with a cheap off-the-shelf tool. It's not a surprise that many here are quite wary.

So keep chill and wait it out. Also, I get the feeling that you expect everyone to have a +3 response to this treatment protocol. If so, you are certainly going to be disappointed as the results showed a quite significant standard deviation. Most people here will likely only see a +1 or +2 response.

I wonder if users of 5-ARIs will be most likely to be in the better response group, thinking aloud for a second.

[Koga]

Stay patient guys! I'm at 8 weeks and I definitely see results. But the only reason I can see it is because I shave my head down with a zero guard and have a distinct receding hairline, and even then it's not really obvious on camera. I had velous hairs at the end of week one and now some terminal hairs are definitely growing in. I'm sure there are others getting results too. I'll post pics when it's more obvious. Definitely don't expect pics with a full head of hair though.

[DesperateOne]

Stay patient guys! I'm at 8 weeks and I definitely see results. But the only reason I can see it is because I shave my head down with a zero guard and have a distinct receding hairline, and even then it's not really obvious on camera. I had velous hairs at the end of week one and now some terminal hairs are definitely growing in. I'm sure there are others getting results too. I'll post pics when it's more obvious. Definitely don't expect pics with a full head of hair though.

Are you also adding some growth factors of any kind?

[clandestine]

I've quit smoking for this; I'm two weeks out. So as not to affect collagen levels and such.

Not easy, but damn if hair loss isn't motivation to quit, I don't know what is.
Second roller session tomorrow, using the 1.5mm.

[Thinning87]

I was reading other forums and people express doubts based on the angle th dermaroller makes contact with the skin.

Apparently oblique vs perpendicular makes a big difference, the latter being better, and they say the dermaroller doesn't guarantee that 90 degree angle

[Koga]

I was reading other forums and people express doubts based on the angle th dermaroller makes contact with the skin.

Apparently oblique vs perpendicular makes a big difference, the latter being better, and they say the dermaroller doesn't guarantee that 90 degree angle

What is their basis for this?
But if you think about it, the needles from a derma roller might enter obliquely, but as the roller continues, it inevitably has to hit a 90 angle before exiting doesn't it?