Dermarolling Community Trial

[fred970]

So, dermarolling worked for these 2 persons but not you, not me, not swingline, not any single other user in the world (if it did, they would be shouting it on rooftops)?

This thread has 300000 views, the one on the other forum had 1 million, yet we have nothing conclusive.

They used minoxidil, that explains the results. The debate is closed.

[PrettyFly83]

12 month update

Hey guys thought I'd update

Took a break from rolling Jan - March then started up again. Hair has bounced back into regrowth mode this month. Lots of new vellus at the temples. Rest is getting thicker and stronger very slowly.

Yes hair lengths are different now etc etc but I have shaved my head the past 5 years o am enjoying the new hair and compliments I'm still very thin ontop though which may never fill in but its alot better than it was.

Yes lighting is not identical but its the best I can do.


Pics are:
1. back & crown 12 months
2. top crown 12 months
3. Left Side from old picture to know
4. Left side from old picture to know different angle
5. Right Temple

[35YrsAfter]

So, dermarolling worked for these 2 persons but not you, not me, not swingline, not any single other user in the world (if it did, they would be shouting it on rooftops)?

This thread has 300000 views, the one on the other forum had 1 million, yet we have nothing conclusive.

They used minoxidil, that explains the results. The debate is closed.

On paper, derma rolling without using any topical is minimally effective. I believe there is a possibility that a future preventive topical cure for MPB will be a PGD2 neutralizer that is applied and derma rolled into the scalp. I wouldn't give up on the derma roller. Also consider that MPB can often take more than a decade to develop. What if some of the guys, discouraged with the short-term results just needed to stick with it? At least use a derma roller with Rogaine. Studies indicate that derma rolling increases its effectiveness. Dr. Cole uses a 1.5 needle length derma roller to enhance the effectiveness of stand-alone ACell/PRP treatments.



35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
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[fred970]

Hey guys thought I'd update

Took a break from rolling Jan - March then started up again. Hair has bounced back into regrowth mode this month. Lots of new vellus at the temples. Rest is getting thicker and stronger very slowly.

Yes hair lengths are different now etc etc but I have shaved my head the past 5 years o am enjoying the new hair and compliments I'm still very thin ontop though which may never fill in but its alot better than it was.

Yes lighting is not identical but its the best I can do.


Pics are:
1. back & crown 12 months
2. top crown 12 months
3. Left Side from old picture to know
4. Left side from old picture to know different angle
5. Right Temple

No disrespect but I'm not buying that you're not on treatments. It's even possible that you had a hair transplant and decided to make fun of us.

Not only the lightning is different, but you have your head shaved in the before pictures.

[Notcoolanymore]

Those are pretty damn good results if they are legit.

[35YrsAfter]

Those are pretty damn good results if they are legit.

Working at Dr. Cole's office, I meet every patient that comes in for hair restoration surgery. I ask every patient if they post in the forums. Roughly 85% say they either regularly or occasionally visit the forums. Out of that 85% who visit the forums, only about 5% say they ever post.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
forhair.com
Cole Hair Transplant
1070 Powers Place
Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
Phone 678-566-1011
email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

[youngin]

Hey guys thought I'd update

Took a break from rolling Jan - March then started up again. Hair has bounced back into regrowth mode this month. Lots of new vellus at the temples. Rest is getting thicker and stronger very slowly.

Yes hair lengths are different now etc etc but I have shaved my head the past 5 years o am enjoying the new hair and compliments I'm still very thin ontop though which may never fill in but its alot better than it was.

Yes lighting is not identical but its the best I can do.


Pics are:
1. back & crown 12 months
2. top crown 12 months
3. Left Side from old picture to know
4. Left side from old picture to know different angle
5. Right Temple

PrettyFly, thanks for stopping in. Incredible results. Your results give me alot of hope to continue on. Everytime I think I should just quit I look at your 9 month picture and remember you telling me to just KEEP GOING. These new ones are even more inspiring. THANKS!

One question is, did you roll every week for 12 months, or did you take breaks?

[youngin]

One question is, did you roll every week for 12 months, or did you take breaks?

Guess I didn't thoroughly read your post. Did you roll all the way from May-2013 to December-2013?

[PrettyFly83]

No disrespect but I'm not buying that you're not on treatments. It's even possible that you had a hair transplant and decided to make fun of us.

Not only the lightning is different, but you have your head shaved in the before pictures.

None taken, Ive got no reason too lie. Ive documented my progress throughout this thread from as early as page 5. Go back and see my posts and early pictures. Definitely no transplant and other meds!

As far as I can tell, I'm getting similar results to the good cases the original study assessed.

So you backtracking on your theory that this is minox only? or clever trick photography?

[fred970]

Not really, I've seen everything in the 5 years I spent on hair loss forums.

27 posts only about dermarolling and a recent joining date, I just don't trust you and I think other members should be cautious too.

I suggest you send your pictures to Spencer and call the show, this could be interesting.

[35YrsAfter]

Not really, I've seen everything in the 5 years I spent on hair loss forums.

27 posts only about dermarolling and a recent joining date, I just don't trust you and I think other members should be cautious too.

I suggest you send your pictures to Spencer and call the show, this could be interesting.

Here's a respected site summarizing a derma rolling study. Very encouraging:

Results:
"(1) Hair counts – The mean change in hair count at week 12 was significantly greater for the Microneedling group compared to the Minoxidil group (91.4 vs 22.2 respectively). (2) Investigator evaluation – Forty patients in Microneedling group had +2 to +3 response on 7-point visual analogue scale, while none showed the same response in the Minoxidil group. (3) Patient evaluation – In the Microneedling group, 41 (82%) patients reported more than 50% improvement versus only 2 (4.5%) patients in the Minoxidil group. Unsatisfied patients to conventional therapy for AGA got good response with Microneedling treatment.

Conclusion:
Dermaroller along with Minoxidil treated group was statistically superior to Minoxidil treated group in promoting hair growth in men with AGA for all 3 primary efficacy measures of hair growth. Microneedling is a safe and a promising tool in hair stimulation and also is useful to treat hair loss refractory to Minoxidil therapy."

Link to the article

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
forhair.com
Cole Hair Transplant
1070 Powers Place
Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
Phone 678-566-1011
email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

[youngin]

Not really, I've seen everything in the 5 years I spent on hair loss forums.

27 posts only about dermarolling and a recent joining date, I just don't trust you and I think other members should be cautious too.

I suggest you send your pictures to Spencer and call the show, this could be interesting.

I know I wouldn't do that if I were him. What does he have to prove to everyone? Nothing. I totally believe it and I've been here more than 5 years. I am a NW6 and already see old hair thickening with DR + Minox after DR'ing for 4 months and Minox for 1. The study already proved the efficacy. I am more bald than PrettyFly. I have proof of hairs turning from vellus to dark hair on DR alone. You can see hairs that are blonde ontop and black on the bottom under a microscope. I won't post any pictures because I don't have anything to prove though. There's a good chance this technique would work for alot of people. Go get your hair transplant and leave it alone.

[Arashi]

Lol

[PrettyFly83]

Come on guys, this study was quoted on the first page, 9th word of this thread and was the whole hype of this treatment...

[hellouser]

Come on guys, this study was quoted on the first page, 8th word of this thread and was the whole hype of this treatment...

LOL, I know, that study has been posted so many times... you'd think everyone would have seen it by now.