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  • bigentries
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 465

    Originally posted by DesperateOne
    Prettyflys's results are useless for derma rolling. Since he took it around the same time he start rolling, it can be most likely that his growth was from minox. Even if it was from rolling, the fact that he started a couple of months ago with minox, completely disqualifies him from any possible validity of derma rolling. Shame because I was looking forward to his results.
    Well, many people (like myself) started minox with dermarolling.

    I don't think any results we provide are "useless" but need to be taken into account that we started (or restarted) minox at the same time.

    This was going to be a huge issue with the study, without a minox only group, you can't be sure if any results produced are better than using minox alone

    I'm more worried about the lack of results, besides PrettyFly, there is no one else providing clear pictures of regrowth

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    • Dan26
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 1270

      im def getting temple action nice velus hairs soem dark, and shedding a lot....need more time tho

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      • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 638

        shedding is good i suppose?shedding=reset hair cycle.

        Originally posted by Dan26
        im def getting temple action nice velus hairs soem dark, and shedding a lot....need more time tho

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        • Conpecia
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 904

          we started in mid-july. it's late september. nowhere near long enough to evaluate. can we please just give this until 2014 before we write it off?

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          • greatjob!
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 909

            Originally posted by Conpecia
            we started in mid-july. it's late september. nowhere near long enough to evaluate. can we please just give this until 2014 before we write it off?
            Patience and common sense? If I didn't know better I would think you were new to tbt, lol.



            For me I could careless what others do or report. Even if everyone here decides it's useless I'm still rolling for a year unless some cure comes out of left field before then. Got to be sure something doesn't work before you throw it in the trash heap, or else whats the point of even trying in the first place.

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            • bigentries
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 465

              Originally posted by Conpecia
              we started in mid-july. it's late september. nowhere near long enough to evaluate. can we please just give this until 2014 before we write it off?
              Until 2014?

              The study was pretty clear, amazing results in 3 months with almost 100% success rate, pointing out that in 6 weeks the growth was noticeable.

              If you don't get results in 3 months, we either messed up with the study or the study is not possible to reproduce

              There comes a time when you need to stop clinging to hopes, see the guy that posted the incredible results with indomethacin in december, it's almost a year, people haven't seen any other results and are still using that stuff

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              • chimera
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 171

                Originally posted by DesperateOne
                Prettyflys's results are useless for derma rolling. Since he took it around the same time he start rolling, it can be most likely that his growth was from minox. Even if it was from rolling, the fact that he started a couple of months ago with minox, completely disqualifies him from any possible validity of derma rolling. Shame because I was looking forward to his results.
                Oh yeah?... didn't you told me to stop being so pessimist and to take my negativity out of here just for saying the same thing like one month and a half before...?

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                • greatjob!
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 909

                  Originally posted by chimera
                  Oh yeah?... didn't you told me to stop being so pessimist and to take my negativity out of here just for saying the same thing like one month and a half before...?

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                  • LongWayHome
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 183

                    Originally posted by greatjob!
                    So...John Abruzzi is balding too.

                    Wait until Mahone finds out he's not dead...

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                    • Conpecia
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 904

                      Originally posted by bigentries
                      Until 2014?

                      The study was pretty clear, amazing results in 3 months with almost 100% success rate, pointing out that in 6 weeks the growth was noticeable.

                      If you don't get results in 3 months, we either messed up with the study or the study is not possible to reproduce

                      There comes a time when you need to stop clinging to hopes, see the guy that posted the incredible results with indomethacin in december, it's almost a year, people haven't seen any other results and are still using that stuff
                      Do what you want. I'm rolling until 2014. It's too easy a treatment to just stop after 6 weeks...

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                      • bigentries
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 465

                        Originally posted by Conpecia
                        Do what you want. I'm rolling until 2014. It's too easy a treatment to just stop after 6 weeks...
                        I never said 6 weeks. The study was 12 weeks long and if someone already jumped into experimenting, they should do the whole 12 weeks

                        But the study also said that at 6 weeks the growth was noticeable, and I already crossed that milestone and my hair remains unchanged, so something is wrong, either me (not a responder, bad methodology) or the study

                        People get emotional with treatments and refuse to admit they tried something that it's simply not going to work, you see it all the time in hair loss forums

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                        • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 638

                          growth was noticable from the best responders at the study at 6th week...

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                          • bigentries
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 465

                            Originally posted by TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                            growth was noticable from the best responders at the study at 6th week...
                            It never talks about best responders

                            Initiation of new hair growth was noticeable by around 6 weeks in Microneedling group and by 10 weeks in Minoxidil group.
                            Rapid growth in the existing hair was seen at week 1 in the Microneedling group than Minoxidil group
                            Even the minoxidil group shows suspiciously fast growth

                            And only 20% on the people in the dermaroller group could not be considered "good responders"

                            This study is too good to be true, specially with the results reported so far

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                            • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 638

                              guys look



                              if the follicles are that deep then 1.5mm aint do s hit....

                              we need to wound around their roots i suppose.....so the stem cells and factors will be produced at that depth.....

                              what you think?

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                              • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 638

                                the info comes from reputable member that contacted the guys that performed the study read the hole thread and also the twin thread on ***
                                Originally posted by bigentries
                                It never talks about best responders



                                Even the minoxidil group shows suspiciously fast growth

                                And only 20% on the people in the dermaroller group could not be considered "good responders"

                                This study is too good to be true, specially with the results reported so far

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