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  • Stocione
    Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 59

    Originally posted by DesperateOne
    That's true, after finding that the initial study was not as accurate and the fact that we found follicla's patents, none of only the entire picture. So just roll to a couple of months and then report you findings.
    Please stop saying that the study was not accurate. It feeds the trolls here. I've explained to you multiple times that it was. I should have never shared my discussions with the researcher... but to reiterate, the materials and methods section of the study did not include many key details for replicating the study - that's why they included the email addresses for subscribers. If you were interested in replicating the study, you would be expected to contact the researchers and ask for their methodology more in depth like what I did.

    Their materials and methods section was simply to provide a snapshot of what they did. Not provide a blueprint for others to follow. This isn't some guide you buy online to curing hair loss. It's a paper published in a peer reviewed journal that likely went through many edits and had a word limit.

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    • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 638

      one more case on *** is positive about wounding response

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      • chimera
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 171

        Originally posted by Stocione
        Please stop saying that the study was not accurate. It feeds the trolls here.
        Trolls?, I don't think there's any troll in here. Yeah, some may question this treatment. But they all do it out of curiosity, perhaps over-scepticism, or maybe even just plain and honest stupidity. But I'm sure nobody does it with malice.

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        • Stocione
          Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 59

          Originally posted by chimera
          Trolls?, I don't think there's any troll in here. Yeah, some may question this treatment. But they all do it out of curiosity, perhaps over-scepticism, or maybe even just plain and honest stupidity. But I'm sure nobody does it with malice.
          Fair point. Not trolls then, because I do agree no one is doing it with malice.

          On a side note, I recommend people check out PrincessRambo's posts on *** where he/she outlines some important components of the study that many seem to be misunderstanding (myself included, in the case of the macro photos). It helps to clear up some of the questions people have raised.

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          • clandestine
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 2002

            Originally posted by chimera
            Trolls?, I don't think there's any troll in here. Yeah, some may question this treatment. But they all do it out of curiosity, perhaps over-scepticism, or maybe even just plain and honest stupidity. But I'm sure nobody does it with malice.
            It has less to do with trolls, and more to do with the spread of misinformation.

            The user DesperateOne, as a prime example.

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            • clandestine
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 2002

              Originally posted by clandestine
              Can I wash my scalp with something afterwards to get the blood off?

              Is the saline solution only to be used before, or can I use this? What about lukewarm water?
              So can I use saline after rolling to clean blood, or no?

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              • bigentries
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 465

                Originally posted by TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                one more case on *** is positive about wounding response
                Who? super?

                So you believe a guy who's first post is to claim to have results without any evidence?

                You guys are going crazy there, with all the semen talk

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                • Stocione
                  Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 59

                  Originally posted by bigentries
                  Who? super?

                  So you believe a guy who's first post is to claim to have results without any evidence?

                  You guys are going crazy there, with all the semen talk

                  I have to agree, Super has provided very little reason to buy his story and we don't even know what the actual procedure done was... given that he's not aware of needle length and didn't give too many details. Hard to see what he has to gain from coming and making up a story, but also not enough to give us much to go on.

                  Do the slightest bit of research and you'll find that semen is a far superior GF/PG ****tail to the one Kane is producing. Now I'm not endorsing it and there are obviously zero studies on the hair growth effects of semen, but to call it 'crazy' is a bit quick.

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                  • bigentries
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 465

                    Originally posted by Stocione
                    I have to agree, Super has provided very little reason to buy his story and we don't even know what the actual procedure done was... given that he's not aware of needle length and didn't give too many details. Hard to see what he has to gain from coming and making up a story, but also not enough to give us much to go on.
                    What to gain? trolling, don't tell me you've never seen people claiming miraculous results and never provide any evidence

                    Do the slightest bit of research and you'll find that semen is a far superior GF/PG ****tail to the one Kane is producing. Now I'm not endorsing it and there are obviously zero studies on the hair growth effects of semen, but to call it 'crazy' is a bit quick.
                    The semen stuff started as a PGE2 joke thread at hlh, it was never intended to be serious. The original poster just pointed out a true fact (PGE2 content in semen) but it was also intended to be humorous as semen, like dog crap, is always used to exemplify how low bald men can go if there is the slight hope of regrowth

                    But people took it seriously, and now they are starting to experiment with semen on their freaking heads

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                    • Stocione
                      Member
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 59

                      I haven't, although I've certainly seen fake accounts used for promoting products that are being sold on the internet. I'm not going to pass judgement one way or another on Super yet, but I wouldn't count his story for much.

                      And whether or not the semen stuff started as a joke is irrelevant to its prospects as a hair growth stimulant. As PrincessRambo has pointed out, semen also contains a number of GFs implicated in hair growth and the PG that bim induces. It's also a bodily fluid and a sanitary one at that. I use saliva to get crumbs off my face. I guess I just don't see the difference. I don't really plant to try it myself though, but it's also not crazy in the least bit.

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                      • walrus
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 298

                        Super also mentioned being on finasteride, so he can't say conclusively it is down to dermarolling.

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                        • baldnotbeautiful
                          Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 67

                          keep seeing people asking what to use to cleanse with. if you guys are looking to clean your head with something before/after derma rolling, Hibiclens is probably the ideal thing to use, imo. If you've ever had surgery, a lot of doctors will ask you to wash yourself with this before surgery, as it's cleansing effect is lasting. CVS sells this for US people

                          Product description :
                          A surgical scrub, patient pre-op skin preparation, healthcare personnel hand wash, and a skin wound and general skin cleaner. A trusted leader in antimicrobial cleaners, bonds with the skin to create a protective, germ-killing field. In addition to the fast acting antimicrobial effect, HIBICLENS' non-drying, low skin irritation potential promotes compliance with the frequent hand washing associated with today's clinical protocols. Clear liquid, pink color, and fragranced.

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                          • whatsgoingon
                            Member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 88

                            Been doing this for a couple weeks on my temples I do it once till my skin gets red per application. I have noticed that it absorbs a lot quicker. I used to get some in my eyes, like really often or it would just drain down the side of my face. But now it pretty much just srays where applied. Which is a huge plus.,

                            I really don't feel any pain for the amount of applications I do,it might be overkill. But I did read that the holes can heal within 3 hours so I figure this is the only way. At first I needed to do it a lot to get the red tone of skin, but now I've been able to keep it to a few strokes to get it red. I guess possibly my skin is really thick and durable heh

                            ANYWAYS, my question is is hydroproxide good enough to clean it with? Considering that these will dull within a few months the rust factor shouldn't be an issue. Or am I completely off base?

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                            • LevonHelms
                              Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 62

                              Originally posted by whatsgoingon
                              Been doing this for a couple weeks on my temples I do it once till my skin gets red per application. I have noticed that it absorbs a lot quicker. I used to get some in my eyes, like really often or it would just drain down the side of my face. But now it pretty much just srays where applied. Which is a huge plus.,

                              I really don't feel any pain for the amount of applications I do,it might be overkill. But I did read that the holes can heal within 3 hours so I figure this is the only way. At first I needed to do it a lot to get the red tone of skin, but now I've been able to keep it to a few strokes to get it red. I guess possibly my skin is really thick and durable heh

                              ANYWAYS, my question is is hydroproxide good enough to clean it with? Considering that these will dull within a few months the rust factor shouldn't be an issue. Or am I completely off base?
                              You do know we're doing this for the wounding not absorption right? Read the study on the first page.

                              Hydrogen peroxide would probably be fine. Lot of people are using alcohol, the best option seems to be denture cleaning tablets.

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                              • LevonHelms
                                Member
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 62

                                Originally posted by Stocione
                                I have to agree, Super has provided very little reason to buy his story and we don't even know what the actual procedure done was... given that he's not aware of needle length and didn't give too many details. Hard to see what he has to gain from coming and making up a story, but also not enough to give us much to go on.

                                Do the slightest bit of research and you'll find that semen is a far superior GF/PG ****tail to the one Kane is producing. Now I'm not endorsing it and there are obviously zero studies on the hair growth effects of semen, but to call it 'crazy' is a bit quick.
                                Did you guys see the Super dude posted pics? Not great quality, but they improve his credibility somewhat. He does have more hair.

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