So how close are we to a new 'cure'

[KO1]

http://www.replicel.com/wp-content/u...ts_Dec2012.pdf

Here Replicel wrote that their procedure has potential to become PERMANENT solution for hair loss.

So it means that maybe effects of the treatments will not diminish in time

How? The native DP cells are still sensitive to androgens. This also does nothing to address the progenitor cell deficit.

Replicel has never even demonstrated that they can generate new follicles, the most I expect them to do is revitalize miniaturized follicles.

If the above is the case, then you will still need finasteride for good results.

[sausage]

Even if Replicel can create new follicles - can they survive the attack of DHT?

[hellouser]

Even if Replicel can create new follicles - can they survive the attack of DHT?

Likely, the cells will be taken from a patients DHT-Free zone.

[sausage]

Likely, the cells will be taken from a patients DHT-Free zone.

You know what will happen, as soon as they slice my head open in the surgery room someone will announce a cure has been created and I'll be shouting "SEW ME BACK UP"

[hellouser]

You know what will happen, as soon as they slice my head open in the surgery room someone will announce a cure has been created and I'll be shouting "SEW ME BACK UP"

I don't think Replicel's method is that intense. Aderans I heard is supposed to take a 1cm x 1cm sample though.

[sausage]

I don't think Replicel's method is that intense. Aderans I heard is supposed to take a 1cm x 1cm sample though.

no, i mean when I go for a hair transplant....as I am having it done a proper cure will probably be announced knowing my luck.

[hellouser]

no, i mean when I go for a hair transplant....as I am having it done a proper cure will probably be announced knowing my luck.

Well, if you want results NOW, I'd say go for it. But its a safe bet nothing will be out for at least another year. 2 years imo is the earliest. But if Aderans got up to speed next year could be possible, and if SkinMedica didn't have shitheads at their company, their failed lawsuit would have enable Histogen to release a product by now.

[KO1]

IF they create new follicles, I suspect yes, they will be DHT resistant.

[Pentarou]

Your belief is wrong.

KO1 is easily one of the most knowledgeable people here, so unfortunately he is most likely right about this. These new treatments are a long way away.

Another reason why finasteride should be a FOOTNOTE in hair loss history.

I don't think it will be for a very long time, even when/if CB-03-01 is widely available. I'm well aware of its severe limitations, but it works, and has plenty of data behind it, so it going to be part of the hair loss battler's arsenal for the foreseeable future.

[Conpecia]

Finasteride is a great treatment for hairloss, and every man who is losing his hair should seriously consider it, ideally before that hairloss becomes visible. Side effects are overblown and exaggerated, and it remains THE gold standard for treatment, and nothing has surpassed it yet.

this is an insult to a lot of guys on this forum. myself included. i'd appreciate it if you just wouldn't speak on stuff you clearly know little about.

[Pentarou]

NW3 and below don't need any new treatments. If they can tolerate fin (or Dut or CB) an HT would set them up very well for many years. Someone less than NW3 can't even be noted as balding.

Respectfully, I strongly disagree. A NW2 can still look genuinely balding if diffuse, and the existing treatments can do little to thicken their hair. Also, diffuse balders cannot get hair transplants at present. New treatments are sorely needed for low Norwoods, although I do agree with you that unfortunately that won't be any time soon.

[KO1]

Respectfully, I a disagree. A NW2 can still look genuinely balding if diffuse, and the existing treatments can do little to thicken their hair. Also, diffuse balders cannot get hair transplants at present. New treatments are sorely needed for low Norwoods, although I do agree with you that unfortunately that won't be any time soon.

Maybe I just have low standards then.

[Pentarou]

Also, don't forget that finasteride doesn't work forever, so even if a NW1 guy with very, very early visible hair loss isn't "cured" by fin no matter how long they take it.

[hellouser]

KO1 is easily one of the most knowledgeable people here, so unfortunately he is most likely right about this. These new treatments are a long way away.


I don't think it will be for a very long time, even when/if CB-03-01 is widely available. I'm well aware of its severe limitations, but it works, and has plenty of data behind it, so it going to be part of the hair loss battler's arsenal for the foreseeable future.

Vast knowledge or none at all, its a joke to say we're a long way away... whats that supposed to mean anyway, several generations away, as in, not in our lifetime? We *are* close. When in history have we ever been able to create skin and follicles? Lauster's already done it. Case closed.

[hellouser]

Also, don't forget that finasteride doesn't work forever, so even if a NW1 guy with very, very early visible hair loss isn't "cured" by fin no matter how long they take it.

It doesn't work for everyone either.