So how close are we to a new 'cure'

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  • cichlidfort
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 262

    #61
    Originally posted by Chromeo
    Totally agree. No-one has a clue, really. Pure speculation.
    But I think it's safe to say there will be some type of product that is better than Fin in the next 3-5 years. I mean crap, in 5 years if we still haven't figured anything out the I have lost faith in humanity. This is ridiculous how painfully slow this is taking. Fin might be a solution to some but to others it's god awful.

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    • Chromeo
      Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 86

      #62
      Originally posted by cichlidfort
      But I think it's safe to say there will be some type of product that is better than Fin in the next 3-5 years. I mean crap, in 5 years if we still haven't figured anything out the I have lost faith in humanity. This is ridiculous how painfully slow this is taking. Fin might be a solution to some but to others it's god awful.
      Would like to agree with you but unfortunately things seem to move painfully slowly with regards to hairloss treatments. Even when things seem to be snowballing in terms of "breakthrough" discoveries, I would err on the side of caution (pessimism) in thinking that a viable cure is still years, if not a decade or so away. But again...it's all speculation. I hope I'm wrong.

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      • KO1
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 805

        #63
        Ahh time...Imperato-McGinley first noted the pseudo-hermaphrodites' 5AR deficiency in 1974, and 25 years later we got Propecia.

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        • rdawg
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 996

          #64
          Originally posted by Pentarou
          Unfortunately, even if a real 'cure' is found fairly soon, that doesn't mean that whatever it is would be available to purchase anytime soon after. (Unless of course it's something that can be accomplished through self-medication, off-label usage of existing drugs, or a home made dermabrasion contraption, but that is not likely.) We have to be realistic, ask the guys who've been on these forums for 5 to 10 years or more, they expected to be fixed by now, and learnt the hard way to not expect too much too soon.
          Fair enough, but if something is found and has very concrete evidence behind it I could easily wait the 3-5 years it takes to get to market and owuld have alot of comfort knowing it's coming.

          even seeing the research done and things like Histogen in the pipeline, there are more solutions on the way! Just have to see if they really help us. For now we have the grey market I suppose, and the hope that one of these things we find ourselves may actually work in the meantime(i.e Cetirizine or something).

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          • greatjob!
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 909

            #65
            Originally posted by cichlidfort
            But I think it's safe to say there will be some type of product that is better than Fin in the next 3-5 years. I mean crap, in 5 years if we still haven't figured anything out the I have lost faith in humanity. This is ridiculous how painfully slow this is taking. Fin might be a solution to some but to others it's god awful.
            Like I said before, I would love to believe that a better treatment is not too far off, but your 3-5 year claim is based completely on pure speculation. What evidence do you have that a better treatment will be here in 3-5 years? Sure there are far more people working on research now than before but there is zero evidence that we will have a viable treatment anytime soon. I don't base my reality on hopes and wishes, I base my reality on proof and evidence. To this point we have no real evidence that a cure or better treatment will be here soon, all we have is hopes and wishes.

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            • TravisB
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 188

              #66
              Originally posted by Pentarou
              We have to be realistic, ask the guys who've been on these forums for 5 to 10 years or more, they expected to be fixed by now, and learnt the hard way to not expect too much too soon.
              But you have to admit that probably never in history we had so many companies working at it at the same time.

              Let's see, we have:

              - Replicel
              - Follica
              - Histogen
              - Aderans (but I'm not sure if they aren't dead)
              - Cosmo with CB-03-01 (I personally put a lot of my faith into it, because it's a topical better than Fin and perhaps Dut with apparently no side effects)
              - Bimatoprost (maybe)
              - Tsuji Labs
              - Dr. Lauster (maybe at some time)
              - Dr. Nigam
              - Dr. Mousseigne

              So there's a chance that maybe not a total cure, but something better than Fin + Minox will come in 2 (Replicel plans to release their product in Asia in 2015) to 10 years. Tsuji Labs seem like they are the furthest away, but they have the potential to release real cure, as they have hair cloning. When the total cure will come, it will be most likely VERY expensive (at least at first) and unattainable for average man.

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              • sausage
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1063

                #67
                Governments should be ploughing money into finding a cure.........

                The money that would be pumped into a country's economy if a cure was found would take it out of economic recession and extinguish the recession on our heads.

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                • Californication
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 134

                  #68
                  Lol if government spent a lot of money on it or made it a priority, it would be solved within a year tops.

                  Of course, that's implausible and you can't expect them to do it, but still, it's funny to think about. We've solved far more complex problems.

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                  • ge77inhigh
                    Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 54

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Californication
                    Lol if government spent a lot of money on it or made it a priority, it would be solved within a year tops.

                    Of course, that's implausible and you can't expect them to do it, but still, it's funny to think about. We've solved far more complex problems.
                    Lol i agree. I think there is a lot of money to be made in this area. I think everyone is working separately rather than together. For example, Nigam/Cole/Gho/French doc Mon should be working together. I think they can have a good hair transplant option, but we can only dream.

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                    • FearTheLoss
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 1581

                      #70
                      Originally posted by greatjob!
                      Like I said before, I would love to believe that a better treatment is not too far off, but your 3-5 year claim is based completely on pure speculation. What evidence do you have that a better treatment will be here in 3-5 years? Sure there are far more people working on research now than before but there is zero evidence that we will have a viable treatment anytime soon. I don't base my reality on hopes and wishes, I base my reality on proof and evidence. To this point we have no real evidence that a cure or better treatment will be here soon, all we have is hopes and wishes.
                      WHAT EVIDENCE DO WE HAVE????

                      hmmmm..histogen's results which are not a cure, but definitely better than minox and propecia

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        #71
                        Originally posted by ge77inhigh
                        Lol i agree. I think there is a lot of money to be made in this area. I think everyone is working separately rather than together. For example, Nigam/Cole/Gho/French doc Mon should be working together. I think they can have a good hair transplant option, but we can only dream.
                        I'd rather have Dr. Lauster sharing his work than any of those doctors you listed.

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                        • FearTheLoss
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1581

                          #72
                          It's funny when people's reasoning for no new treatments coming soon is "I've been here for ten years and new treatments are always a few years away".... like technology and knowledge hasn't evolved.


                          We will have a better treatment than propecia in 4 years or less..mark my words.

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                          • greatjob!
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 909

                            #73
                            Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                            WHAT EVIDENCE DO WE HAVE????

                            hmmmm..histogen's results which are not a cure, but definitely better than minox and propecia
                            And when is that treatment coming out, if ever? You don't know. My point is that yes their are more treatments in the works than ever before, but not one single person knows when or if any of these are going to come out. And this topic is about a "cure". Anyone that says a treatment or cure will be out in x amount of years is basing that completely on their own opinion and assumptions, there for it is not evidence of anything coming soon but pure speculation. It's the same thing as me saying we will cure cancer in 5-10 years, there is more cancer research going on now than any other time in history, but I would be pulling that 5-10 year figure straight out of my ass just like everyone here is doing when speculating about a date for a hair loss cure.

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                            • Conpecia
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 904

                              #74
                              Don't see the point of this thread because nobody knows. Might as well ask if you're going to be alive in 10 years. Nobody knows.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                #75
                                I have a Magic 8 ball and its telling me you're all going to be balder than a cue ball in 3 years.

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