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  • burtandernie
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 1563

    Yeah that doesnt sound good. Maybe I should go hassle my doc and see if I can go the finasteride route before trying RU. RU sounds like as much of a gamble as fin. I have no idea where all the no sides from RU talk comes from. Just because it targets receptors doesnt mean much of anything. Could certainly cause problems still. I really wanted to avoid fin but RU doesnt sound much safer so who knows I guess. The wonderful world of MPB

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    • Trouse5858
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 166

      Haha it really is such a pain in the ass that a medication even close to as strong as fin hasn't come out without the sexual sides. I took propecia for literally 3 weeks before I noticed the sexual sides. It took another 2 weeks or so after stopping that I could get erections again. I realize that sounds like it may be too short of a time period to really gauge anything about a drug or experience full-blown side effects but this did not seem like a placebo effect.

      I've been thinking recently about switching back to fin and seeing if I can tolerate it better. I think the reason people like myself are more comfortable with RU is because the side effects just aren't as bad. Gyno sucks but mine isn't noticeable to anyone other than myself. ED is simply the worst thing you can have, balding or not. If I could have the benefits of fin without ED, I'd sign up for all the brain fog and headaches it can dish out, it's just a trade-off.

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      • RockyMtn
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2015
        • 21

        Originally posted by Tenma
        i buy the premixed from kane. i wasnt really hopeful at first given the ru stability debate. but its really working for me

        i have no idea about aarc chems though.

        also use the ru solution over the first two months to have some peace of mind regarding precipitation issues
        Hey Tenma, when you state "it's really working for me", how so? What has RU done for you to date, and how long have you used it? Thanks!

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        • Tenma
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 172

          Hey Tenma, when you state "it's really working for me", how so? What has RU done for you to date, and how long have you used it? Thanks!
          What im seeing is a noticeable thickening all over my NW2. something hairline, which I find somewhat shocking because im using antiandrogens since 2005 and never really had much regrowth ( like most people i think) until i started using the ru.

          I was on fin for 5 years and switched to dut in 2013. That change didnt really impact on any way. I continued keeping hair on dut.

          The reason i added ru was its mode of action. Antagonizing receptors is a very nice adition to every antiandrogenic treatment.

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          • RockyMtn
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 21

            Thanks, Tenma. That's great to hear things seem to be working for you. Is the thickening you are seeing a thickening of existing hair, or new regrowth? Or both?

            And were you using the Kane premixed solution, or making your own? Also, how long have you been sing RU?
            Last edited by RockyMtn; 03-23-2015, 07:26 PM. Reason: Added one additional question.

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            • Tenma
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 172

              Thanks! is the premixed solution from anageninc (kane us and europe office i heard).

              Im a diffuse thinner so mainly existing hair but the change is really encouraging given i started ru last january.

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              • burtandernie
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 1563

                I dont know the concentrations but RU is certainly much more powerful an AA than finasteride in terms of chemical potency I think. I might be wrong but I thought it could get near castration levels of androgens so I mean in theory its much more powerful than finasteride so I dont doubt it gets real results assuming the many things like purity, potency and so on are all correct. The androgen route cant do more than maintain though.
                The power of the chemical though is what makes me nervous about using it.

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                • Swooping
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 794

                  Originally posted by Tenma
                  What im seeing is a noticeable thickening all over my NW2. something hairline, which I find somewhat shocking because im using antiandrogens since 2005 and never really had much regrowth ( like most people i think) until i started using the ru.

                  I was on fin for 5 years and switched to dut in 2013. That change didnt really impact on any way. I continued keeping hair on dut.

                  The reason i added ru was its mode of action. Antagonizing receptors is a very nice adition to every antiandrogenic treatment.
                  You had improvement after using dutasteride? Are you still on dut now? I find it pretty interesting that some people even if they are maintaining on finasteride or dutasteride get improvement if they add a topical anti androgen.

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                  • PinotQ
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 186

                    Originally posted by Tenma
                    Thanks! is the premixed solution from anageninc (kane us and europe office i heard).

                    Im a diffuse thinner so mainly existing hair but the change is really encouraging given i started ru last january.
                    Tenma, Do you mean January 2015 or January 2014? And any idea how many mg's of ru you apply daily? Once or twice? Thanks

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                    • Tenma
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 172

                      Originally posted by Swooping
                      You had improvement after using dutasteride? Are you still on dut now? I find it pretty interesting that some people even if they are maintaining on finasteride or dutasteride get improvement if they add a topical anti androgen.
                      Yep. Im still on dut now.

                      About the improvement, i find it odd too. the only logical explanation i can think of is the hypothesis of T playing a role in mpb too.

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                      • Tenma
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 172

                        Tenma, Do you mean January 2015 or January 2014? And any idea how many mg's of ru you apply daily? Once or twice? Thanks
                        Started January 2015.

                        I use the 5% concentration, 1 ml (50 mg) per day

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                        • diffuse
                          Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 35

                          sides form RU

                          Do u guys get sides from RU (erection problems)? I'm using it with dermaroller 1mm since the end of january 60 mg (so it's 2 month now) daily in 2ml (ethanol/pg) to cover my entire diffuse scalp. In the begining I had a bit of nut pain but after 2 weeks it was gone and had zero sides. About a week ago i started noticing erection problems. My hair is great i have amazing results i will post pictures next months. I don't want to give up, do you think by lowering the dose down to 40mg could help??? I missed 1 application because i wanted to see what happens with my libido and erection and the sides were gone. Would it be effective if i use it every other day?

                          Please don't ignore me guys.

                          Thanks

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                          • PinotQ
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 186

                            Originally posted by diffuse
                            Do u guys get sides from RU (erection problems)? I'm using it with dermaroller 1mm since the end of january 60 mg (so it's 2 month now) daily in 2ml (ethanol/pg) to cover my entire diffuse scalp. In the begining I had a bit of nut pain but after 2 weeks it was gone and had zero sides. About a week ago i started noticing erection problems. My hair is great i have amazing results i will post pictures next months. I don't want to give up, do you think by lowering the dose down to 40mg could help??? I missed 1 application because i wanted to see what happens with my libido and erection and the sides were gone. Would it be effective if i use it every other day?

                            Please don't ignore me guys.

                            Thanks
                            I have been on it for 5 weeks. I started with 100mg and didn't really notice any libido or erectile issues but I have also never had any on Fin either. I did notice a sort of mild buzz in my head that seemed to last an hour or so that wasn't really a big deal. But that turned a little stronger and lasted longer at about the 3 week mark so I cut back to 60mg. Not noticing it much at all now. My hair seemed to perk up almost immediately after I started and there seemed to be a reduction in oil on my forehead and in my scalp. But my hair seems a little thinner now and although I don't count shed hairs, I did notice a few more after I showered (at about the 3rd or 4th week) but nothing drastic. Did you shed at all? Just a guess but b/c of the 1 hour half-life, it would probably be most effective when applied daily. I'm still learning and analyzing and may try a very small second application at night at the hairline. Also, where did you buy your ru?
                            Last edited by PinotQ; 03-24-2015, 02:57 PM. Reason: Add question.

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                            • diffuse
                              Member
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 35

                              I got it from Kane. I've been trough a terrible shed form December to February lost half of my hair, now a great regrowth the hairs are still short but pigmented strong one. I loose like 5 hairs in the shower and another 5 when i apply the RU and minox i guess it's normal. If the erection problem doesn't go away by reducing the dosage i'll consider taking some mild supplement in low doses which increases free testosterone levels or an aromatase inhibitor. I think it won't harm my hair because in my scalp the dht stays blocked, but i'm not a doctor. Sorry for my english im from hungary.

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                              • RockyMtn
                                Junior Member
                                • Feb 2015
                                • 21

                                Originally posted by Tenma
                                Thanks! is the premixed solution from anageninc (kane us and europe office i heard).

                                Im a diffuse thinner so mainly existing hair but the change is really encouraging given i started ru last january.
                                Do you feel like RU is showing benefits everywhere for you? I ask because I have diffuse thinning as well, and have decided it's RU time for me. Are you seeing positive things throughout the crown and front?

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