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What happens to RU after it enters the blood stream and passes past the many many androgen receptors found in places like skin? Where does RU get broken down and metabolized? I think its too early to say its side free. Many users dont have issues with finasteride does that mean it sides free because you cant see or notice any changes?
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I don't think that would be a correct protocol considering the short half life of RU. It needs to be applied daily to be effective. The day you don't take it is the day DHT will be binding to your scalp's androgen receptors causing further hair thinning/loss.
An alternative to taking it eod would be to split your dose (if funds is an issue). Instead of thinking about using, for example, 50mg eod use 25mg ed (every day).Comment
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hmm...thats not enough to cover the whole scalp...I use 250mg every other day "5ml" and it works for me...but im gonna start using 200mg everyday from now on...Comment
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I spent around 5 months messing with tiny, infrequent, doses of finasteride with no note worthy results. Then I added 45mg of RU in 1.5ml 5 months ago and the quality of my hair turned a complete 180. I stopped having greasy hair and my hairline exploded with black fuzz and new terminal hairs. I can dig up some pics and more details if anyone's interested. Just wanted to thank hellouser and the community that's spread across a few forums.Comment
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My hair stopped being so greasy after the first week. After 1 month I started to see some fuzz. Months 3-4 the quality of my hair completely changed.
I got it from anagen. I've spent 3 months with KB solution and 2 months with 70/30 ethanol/pg. The KB solution feels much better and I'm able to spread it around my scalp much more efficiently. Most of my results popped up when using KB (I hope this is coincidence.) The RU dissolves on impact in ethanol, it takes a solid minute of stirring to fully dissolve in KB. I'm only using ethanol/pg now to save money.Comment
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ahh...thats cool man..been using 250mg every other day "mostly" but been using the premixed soution 5% pg/ethanol...I have dermarolled my scalp every time and sprayed that liquid all over the damn Place...I do shed less hairs my hair feels stronger but I see no damn new hairs on my hairline...it just keeps receeding pretty much. I have had a norwood 2.5 for around 5 years so that hair is just DEAD I bet...too late to save them...anyway I read that mixing yourself is best I guess..but the issue is that I dont know what to mix it with..I can get ethanol but that PG I dunno where to get in my country "sweden"... but it says on their site that the premixed are stable for 6 months and I use up my bottles in 1 month...and I have read 2 guys getting "fuzz" on their hairline after using "KB 5% premixed solution from anagen" so it must be effective but maybe not as strong as freshly mixed I dunno...nobody "truely" knows to be honest..but I use up my premixed fast anyway so I dont Think its much of a problem..but ordering a Little bag with White powder in it seems risky...I hope they dont Think its cocaine or something..there are no tull from france to sweden but im still afraid they will wonder what it contains since its just some powder...thats why I have been afraid of ordering the powder... been thinking of ordering 5% "KB" premixed this time and not pg/ethanol...and use 200-250mg of it everyday this time instead of everyday...it will cost me 235 dollar for 1 month supply because I use "5ml" of RU everyday...I do have kinda long hair I dont want to Buzz cut it...thats why I use more "ML" to cover my whole scalp...how long is your hair btw? in mm or cm? please tell me...and do you "dermaroll" every time you apply it? and do you RUBB it in hard?? please tell me its important for me to know this thanks!Comment
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Looking back I started losing hair about 4 years ago. A shaggy cut and ignorance hid it from me until a vicious year of accelerated hair loss really woke me up and I took action. One side was a full blown diffusing NW3, the other was a thick NW2.5. If RU keeps it up I'll have a thick NW2 and a diffuse-ish NW2. But in any event, the quality of my hair is incredible compared to the start of the year.
I actually have the opposite problem. PG is easy but I can't buy anything higher than 150 proof in store. I have to get 200 proof from labs on ebay and trust their word that they aren't denatured with weird stuff. It's so much cheaper than KB, though. I used the premix my first month so I think it's fine. I make 10-15 day batches at a time and apply it every day. And I agree, the white powder can look sketchy.
I don't dermaroll and my hair isn't buzzed down, 5-7cm or so. It is a bit difficult sometimes with the hair soaking it up, but I've gotten better at it. I rub it in the best I can but try not to be too harsh. What really helps applying it through hair is dragging a 1 ml syringe along the scalp (no needle obviously.) I can usually cover the whole NW6 pattern with only 1.5ml this way.Comment
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hmm...I have been using 250mg every other day premixed 5% RU from anagen for 3 months now...I have got no new hairs what so ever.. I use "5ml" then add 1ml minox so "6ml" then shake it and spray it onto my scalp all over the place... I have only noticed decreased hairloss so far... and 250mg is a huge dose...I should get much better results shouldnt I.... -_- I have also dermarolled my scalp often...this is why I bought the "KB" solution just to try it and I will use 200mg "everyday" from now on...the way I apply my RU is that I first soak my hair in "alcogel 85%" to make my hair clump up and make it wetter..so when I spray the liquid RU the hair wont absorb much of the RU at all..since the hair is already wet from the "alcogel" and I see alot better when my hair is more "wet" I try not to reach the scalp with the alcogel but 85% alcohol is the highest I can find...maybe its better to buy some ethanol and just wet the hair a Little I dunno will have to see about that..but this is a good option for you I Think...try it and see how u like it...I have had zero sides I even used 400mg of RU today...and rubbed it in...I just dont get any sides...hopefully its not because its "premixed" maybe I get sides from freshly mixed but I doubt it tbh...people report sides with just 50mg of RU and they make it "fresh"...and I have used 400mg of premixed and I have zero sides..I Believe 250-400mg of premixed is more potent than 50mg freshly mixed lol...I still have read 2 guys using the premixed and they got regrowth of hair..and also some guy got side effects from "premixed" so its deffo potent enough...but I just dont get any sides no matter how much I use lol lucky me I guess but I need better results than what I got..this is why I order x3 bottles now for 235$ each month..will see in a couple of months how this goes...Comment
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Well you're absolutely using enough RU to get results haha. That's also a pretty interesting way of getting it to the scalp. I'm sure you're getting it done!
RU saves hair ultimately the same way as finasteride - as in less dht is binding to hair. I feel like I've read every fin/dut/ru account on these forums and for many people all these medications do is maintain. Most don't see any real cosmetic regrowth until 6+ months in (if ever.) I've seen many 3+ year long finasteride forum journals (with pics) and it didn't even seem to slow down some of these poor guys hair loss. The truth is all of these medications kind of suck and RU has the hardest group to please (guys that fin/dut didn't work for, stopped working for, or gave them horrible sides.) The absolute best you can hope for is to turn the clock back 2 years, make your remaining hair healthier, and maintain from there. Combine that with side effects and the hassle of these meds... it's no surprise they were a commercial flop.
As for the sides, I first started out with propecia 1mg a day without knowing much about the online madness. The first week I was fine, 2nd week the downstairs wasn't working right, 3rd week the downstairs completely shut down. It was the only side effect I experienced but it was pretty scary once I learned about the extent of the online hysteria. That led me to tiny fin doses and then to RU. Like you, I've had zero side effects with RU. I've even accidentally breathed in a bunch of this stuff back when I was terrible at mixing the powder haha.
All of this is why I'm so appreciative of the great results I've gotten so far. It's given me my life back for now, and that's why I wanted to sign up to say thanks to everyone.Comment
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what dose of RU have been using Coiffio?
Sorry if I missed it....
I'm about to start using it, just waiting to get my 190 proof booze, lolComment
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coiffio u take a small dose of fin dont you? maybe thats why you got fast results with RU I mean 3% RU and just 45mg and 1.5ml...thats insane to get such fast results..but I Think lowering dht in the blood from finasteride has helped you gain faster and better results dont u Think? im not sure if ur on FIN or not but you said "small dose of fin"Comment
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I agree that RU and fin could have a nice synergetic DHT blocking effect because of the different modes of action... unless there's more about up regulation we don't know about. For 5 months I took .25mg of fin twice a week with random 1 week breaks. I got no cosmetic results.
When I switched to RU I stopped taking fin for several weeks. Then I started back up taking .25mg about once (rarely twice) a week because I can handle it and agree that it could help RU do its job. The whole timeline of things and RU ending my 4 year battle with itchy greasy hair almost instantly makes me think RU is doing some heavy lifting. My older brother said he was going to start RU some time ago. It's the only treatment he's ever used for hair so it'll be interesting to watch. I'll ask him about it.
As for the 45mg dose of RU being low, El DUT and some others have been using 20mg a day for over a year now. 50-100mg a day is the standard. More wouldn't hurt at all as long as you're not getting sides. I just don't want to spend much money haha. The day something grows every last hair back onto my head is the day I empty the life savings account.Comment
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thats the thing...about duterino using only 20mg a day...and he says it maintained his hair and thats a very low dose...you should use at least 50-100mg...I know this..if 250mg of RU a day dont work for me in 2-3 months then I should just give it up or well not really it does infact reduce my shedding I barely lose any hairs now..but my hairline still got weak hair there and is not growing stronger even though I have sprayed RU there and dermarolled my hairline like crazy and rubbed it in very hard...I used RU mostly every other day...with a Little minox but I rarely used it everyday..anyway I feel like cutting my hair even shorter its like 5cm...maybe go 3 or so I just dont wanna Buzz cut because I wanna see results from RU Before I do anything stupid that I will regret... as of yet no hair growth at least not on the hairline but who knows maybe somewhere else that I cant see? anyway wish me Luck this time with 250mg a day of KB solution I use 5%.. but you know I Heard el duterino Went back on FIN? he said it himself at 2012 not sure if he quit again? he said that RU was good but it wasnt enough anymore to stop his hairloss because of getting older thats what he saidComment
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