Complete RU58841 Usage Guide

[burtandernie]

Im only interested in premade stuff. Has anyone bought or ever tested RU from here - http://www.aarc-chems.com/ru58841-liquid-solution because this stuff ships for 5 dollars in US while the other normal places most people seem to buy from cost 25 for shipping. 25 dollars to ship a bottle of liquid verses 5?

[Swooping]

Finasteride is also a steroidal 5ar inhibitor. RU from my experience is equally capable if giving bad sides, is highly unproven for safety, although prob doesn't have the broad cognitive etc sides that fin can have. It was enough that it made my nuts hurt tons and hide like frightened children. Scary stuff. All these treatments are pretty BS. Trying to take shots at pathways that aren't the complete picture. If replicel or setipiprant don't work, and those are huge ifs, then I don't have much hope for a reliable and easy to maintain treatment. Everything else is too big a pain in the ass for most sane men.

Finasteride works in 9/10 people for maintenance. Less than 10% get sides and that is on the high end. I guess you are unlucky to be susceptible to side effects too. Anyway if you don't go on either fin, dut or ru you are going to lose hair simple as that. Every second counts. Your choice to make. Read this study;

http://www.synergypublishers.com/jms/index.php/gjdv/article/view/701/347

Media reports, Internet sites and misinformation by alternative medicine practitioners recently contributed to a negative image associated with finasteride, leading to apprehension and concern among patients taking the medication. Frequently, even dermatologists seem to be hesitant to prescribe the drug for long periods, mistakenly fearing the occurrence of long-term side effects. Finasteride, either alone or in combination with topical minoxidil, is an excellent option for men with androgenetic alopecia, reducing hair loss, and/or restoring hair growth in 9 of 10 patients. The drug can be taken at any time of the day, with or without food. There are no reports of significant drug interactions or allergies. Because it is metabolized in the liver, the drug should be used with caution in patients with liver diseases, but there is no need to indicate liver function tests frequently yet.

Swooping explain why ru58841 is side free and FDA approved fina causing puffy nippels. Because ru58841 is similar to androgen ?

RU can have sides too and can cause puffy nipples too. Nonetheless I think a topical androgen receptor antagonist has a more favorable action than systematical 5ar2 inhibition. It's more efficient and straight to the target that way and doesn't alter hormones. If you want to know more I suggest you start go reading. There is more than enough information around.

[Tenma]

Finasteride works in 9/10 people for maintenance.

Well a young men with aga has a 25-30% chance to lose some hair on fin.

the 10 year fin study showed that those with high androgen levels showed the poorest results long term.

Dont get me wrong, i think propecia should be everyone first step when it comes to aga but for some it might not be enough.

Dut seems to be a better option for those people, i think.

According to a very recent study published by glaxo tt performed really well long term: 99% kept or improved their hair over 4 years!

[Tenma]

In my opinion the perfect combo is DUT+RU. It will cause a dramatic impact on dht at the hf level, even comparable to castration (in the case of ru locally, thanks god lol).

But its important to start with good hair because if dht caused too much damaged, nothing will work unless you are very lucky

[Swooping]

Well a young men with aga has a 25-30% chance to lose some hair on fin.

the 10 year fin study showed that those with high androgen levels showed the poorest results long term.

Dont get me wrong, i think propecia should be everyone first step when it comes to aga but for some it might not be enough.

Dut seems to be a better option for those people, i think.

According to a very recent study published by glaxo tt performed really well long term: 99% kept or improved their hair over 4 years!

Very good points. I concur with you that the mean ~70% dht inhibition finasteride gives isn't suffice for some people. But as you mention then you have DUT left for those people. RU is also a possibility and combining them as you mention just is a preventative cure for everyone. Starting early is the key indeed, preventing the damage is so damn important.

[burtandernie]

I guess by default it means no but has anyone got RU from here -http://www.aarc-chems.com/ru58841-liquid-solution is this stuff legit or third party tested by anyone? Its a lot cheaper so I would rather try this. The biggest negative about RU is not knowing the legitimacy of the chemical your getting.

[ghostrider]

I wouldn't compromise when it's about my hair.
Quality is very important for ru58841 to work.
Aarc and ru solutions.com gave me this huge shedding with increased oily itching scalp. It is probably mixed with some cheaper chemicals. Not sure what it is.

I switched back to kanes k&b 5% which seems to work fine.

Currently looking for some decent regrowth. I will receive my oc next week hopefully.

Anyone combining ru+minox +pdg2?

[Tenma]

i buy the premixed from kane. i wasnt really hopeful at first given the ru stability debate. but its really working for me

i have no idea about aarc chems though.

also use the ru solution over the first two months to have some peace of mind regarding precipitation issues

[burtandernie]

Okay so other places dont seem to be as good. My gripe is its 25 to ship on anageninc but 5 on aarc. I mean your talking stuff your buying many times over the course of years so its a lot of money long term for nothing. They also say the solution lasts about a year under decent conditions like out of sun light so I think using it in a few months is a bit too cautious.

[ghostrider]

Buying in bulk would be your best bet. It is very easy to mix yourself though. Powder is stable for years. You cold pop some powder in your minox and you're done personally I'd preffer the k&b solution. I'm personally to lazy to mix myself but it shouldn't be that hard. Why aren't you trying fin at first. My dermatologist recommended me starting with approved treatments at first. Which I tried.

[lilpauly]

Burtanderine why don't u buy Susan's Minox fin formula ?

[lilpauly]

Burtandefine why don't u buy Susan's fin Minox formula

[burtandernie]

No idea what that is and I dont want minox just fin for maintaining. I would be happy simply keeping what I have without altering hormone levels long term. RU assuming it had some reliable supplier is sadly the best there seems to be still

[burtandernie]

Is RU safe to use? I read some old posts from a few years ago where some guy had heart problems and thought it was from RU. That kind of thing can be kind of worrying in a drug that really isnt approved and you dont know if the stuff you took was even legit or if it was contaminated with other stuff. To me topical and targeting receptors always made a lot more sense than the propecia approach. That is what everyone wants the most powerful AA that is safe too and the only way to do that is topically.

[Trouse5858]

I'm on it right now. I definitely think it has given me shortness of breath after applying it and has caused mild chest pain that I would liken to heartburn. Overall, not a great sign but then again, watch a drug commercial on TV and listen to the laundry list of side effects. It's unfortunate but I since I couldn't take fin which would have helped me a ton, I'm rolling the dice on RU.