Complete RU58841 Usage Guide

[Swooping]

swooping..I have a question when I spray the RU all over my scalp I use 5ml"250mg" of it and add just 2ml of minox to it and mix it together then spray it all over...I Always dermaroll all over my scalp with 1mm derma needle of course for better "absorption" and I do a good job doing it i do bleed slightly sometimes even...anyway...my issue is when I rubb my scalp after I spray it on...some say its "needed" to rubb the RU in is this really true? the derma Rolling does make small small holes in the scalp so the RU and the minox can seep into those small holes by itself? or do I really need to rubb it in hard for it to enter the skin/hair folicle? I dont want to have a shaved head to be able to rubb it in lol...I rubb my scalp with that "neogenic" plastic thing you know that one? Little plastic thing that u rubb the neogenic liquid on your scalp...anyway I rubb it in with that...but I noticed when I put it against the scalp and start rubbing the hairs is in the way I rubb "ON" the hairs "sometimes" and on the scalp at the same time you know..its hard to avoid this...but when doing this the hair will kind of "Clean up" the liquid RU that is on the scalp...I just want to touch the SCALP SKIN and not the hairs itself..but haha even if you have 1 CM hair length and rubb your scalp you will still rubb the hair against the scalp...the only way to avoid this is to completely shave your head or have 1-3mm hair length but I dont want to go around like that for months cuz my hair grows slowly due to "MPB" and I dont suit with that short hair actually its my head shape and size that puts me off actually.. but do you rubb the RU in every time? do you Think its REALLY necessary? I mean you Think you can get results without rubbing it in? dermarolling deffo helps the RU to enter the hair folicles because of the small holes it makes in the skin...please give me your thoughts and suggestions if you have any

Personally I start with a glass dropper on the front of my head and then tilt my head back so the solution runs over my head. Then I massage it in. I don't know if rubbing helps with penetration though, doubt it.

And yes these results are real. However some use minoxidil in combination with the RU, so some of these results come off a synergistic effect.

Also RU works primarily for maintenance. Some will notice an increase in hair growth and thickening, but not everyone. You should expect maintenance everything else would be a plus. Unfortunately some can even continue to lose with RU, it's definitely possible. Hope that helps.

[VegetaDBZ]

Hi guys.....

Now full frontal stop & increase thickness

So happy.. But no regrowth unfortunately?

Do I need to increase dose..?

[Soonbald]

you can try to increase the dose I use 300mg a day! no problems

[Pate]

I agree that RU and fin could have a nice synergetic DHT blocking effect because of the different modes of action... unless there's more about up regulation we don't know about. For 5 months I took .25mg of fin twice a week with random 1 week breaks. I got no cosmetic results.

When I switched to RU I stopped taking fin for several weeks. Then I started back up taking .25mg about once (rarely twice) a week because I can handle it and agree that it could help RU do its job. The whole timeline of things and RU ending my 4 year battle with itchy greasy hair almost instantly makes me think RU is doing some heavy lifting. My older brother said he was going to start RU some time ago. It's the only treatment he's ever used for hair so it'll be interesting to watch. I'll ask him about it.

As for the 45mg dose of RU being low, El DUT and some others have been using 20mg a day for over a year now. 50-100mg a day is the standard. More wouldn't hurt at all as long as you're not getting sides. I just don't want to spend much money haha. The day something grows every last hair back onto my head is the day I empty the life savings account.

I use 40mg a day and it works fine. I used 50mg for a while but I was having trouble dissolving it in the minox I was using as a vehicle. Not enough ethanol I suspect. As it evaporated it would leave a white powdery substance on my scalp.

So I dropped it to 40mg and it still nukes my oily scalp. The minox provides good regrowth (well, as good as you can expect from minox) so overall this is the best single treatment I've ever used.

[burtandernie]

How would someone continue to bald even using a high dose of RU? What would be the mechanism of that then because nearly all androgens are rendered inactive you would assume.

[warner8]

for those of you who are on RU now, how long did you decide to take the plunge after being in din/dut? i ask because I have been on fin for over a year and a half and have not gotten the results i hoped. current hair count is being maintained, slowly dropping off. I used minox in the past with great regrowth for a number of years until my DHT got too high, and the minox stopped working. would going to RU help my minox work again?
thanks

[Soonbald]

The only thing you can do is experiment and see how things go...the longest I could take fin was 1 month until my Eyes got severely dry so I had to stop it ...then I started minox and RU..been on "minox" for 4-5 months no results whatsoever maybe slightly less shedding but I didnt see any new hairs at least not on my hairline so I figured it barely works...so I might drop that and now im gonna just use 300mg of RU everyday for a few months and I will ONLY use RU...this is a good test because many people use RU and minox so its hard to determine which one that works the best...I used 250mg of RU every other day for 3 months but all I got was less shedding but no regrowth on my hairline this time I will use everyday at 300mg and in KB solution this time instead of ethanol/pg..I will surely keep you all updated after my test run!

[Swooping]

How would someone continue to bald even using a high dose of RU? What would be the mechanism of that then because nearly all androgens are rendered inactive you would assume.

It doesn't block all DHT.

[VegetaDBZ]

you can try to increase the dose I use 300mg a day! no problems

300 MG...!?? So much..!!!!!!!!

I will try 100 MG....

Very happy already but hope for regrowth!!!!!!

[Soonbald]

Vegeta how short is your hair in mm or cm??? and do u mix the ru with minox or just ethanol/pg mixture?

[chongmet]

Guys,
I am on Minox for 6 years. Never touched Fin and not gonna (too afraid). So RU is like the last chance for me to somehow block DHT with minimal sides.

Got a question for you, users of RU - Could you maintain your results for the long term using RU? I've read in certain places that the effect of RU is very short - few months, and then it becomes slightly uneffective. Are there some fellows that have been on RU for few years now and can say that it helps maintaining hair state?

Thanks a lot

[PinotQ]

Guys,
I am on Minox for 6 years. Never touched Fin and not gonna (too afraid). So RU is like the last chance for me to somehow block DHT with minimal sides.

Got a question for you, users of RU - Could you maintain your results for the long term using RU? I've read in certain places that the effect of RU is very short - few months, and then it becomes slightly uneffective. Are there some fellows that have been on RU for few years now and can say that it helps maintaining hair state?

Thanks a lot

Personally, I think you have to discount much of the feedback where people say their medication showed benefit or stopped working within the first 4th months. My doctor (very reputable and well know) told me that in over 20 years of practice, no matter the medication, any benefits from treatment don't generally start to show themselves until the 6th thru 12th months. And typically, you can expect some degree of shedding for the first 3 to 4 months. This doesn't mean people don't think they see regrowth and they absolutely could see less greasy or more lively hair. But you can't "see" maintenance except by having the same amount of hair over a longer term and you likely wouldn't see any new regrowth for a least 4 months. Here is another quote from another well known hair physician's website (Dr. Bernstein) saying basically the same thing regarding dutasteride: "During the first six months on dutasteride, one may note some thinning of one’s existing hair. This may be due to either progression of your hair loss before finasteride has had a chance to work, or some shedding of miniaturized hair that makes way for the new healthy hair to grow. It is important to be patient during this period. You should continue the medication for at least one year before you and your doctor can assess its benefits."

[Swooping]

Guys,
I am on Minox for 6 years. Never touched Fin and not gonna (too afraid). So RU is like the last chance for me to somehow block DHT with minimal sides.

Got a question for you, users of RU - Could you maintain your results for the long term using RU? I've read in certain places that the effect of RU is very short - few months, and then it becomes slightly uneffective. Are there some fellows that have been on RU for few years now and can say that it helps maintaining hair state?

Thanks a lot

I am 2 years now on it still maintaining. One guy maintained on it for 10 years and then it stopped working for him a bit he said.

[Soonbald]

I am 2 years now on it still maintaining. One guy maintained on it for 10 years and then it stopped working for him a bit he said.

Swooping so I assume you dont use any internall dht blockers such as fin/dut/palmetto? JUST ru? if you use FIN/minox...then you can never know if RU works or not.. im currently just using RU as a stand alone treatment gonna give it a few months..but im doubtfull tbh

[warner8]

Are Kane and Anagenic the same company? and if so is the quality of product high

I am thinking of ordering a bottle of the pre-made RU in solution

http://anageninc.com/on-sale/ru58841-solution-50ml.html

I wanted to know what is the difference between the % RU, 3, 5 AND 8%. What is the most commonly used, and which one is best for begginers?

Also, which is the better solution the PG and Alcohol, or this KB solution?
thanks