7th World Congress for Hair Research (2013)

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  • bibz
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 102

    Sorry to speak like that, but damn if we're not optimistic lets just kill ourselves, we are all in the same shit

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    • Pentarou
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 482

      I think we'd all better get used to accepting that if there is ever anything new for combating MPB that is real, available and proven in our lifetimes, it's obviously decades away, and all we have is Fin, Dut and Rogaine for now, in terms of anything short of surgery. This "congress", it's all hot air and theorizing and masturbation but nothing of actual use for anyone. This whole industry is a hollow money making sham.

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      • garethbale
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 603

        Originally posted by Pentarou
        I think we'd all better get used to accepting that if there is ever anything new for combating MPB that is real, available and proven in our lifetimes, it's obviously decades away, and all we have is Fin, Dut and Rogaine for now, in terms of anything short of surgery. This "congress", it's all hot air and theorizing and masturbation but nothing of actual use for anyone. This whole industry is a hollow money making sham.
        I understand your pessimism but I don't think what you say is entirely the case. There are more and more people and companies working on more effective solutions to the MPB problem. Sure an outright cure is probably some way off, but there are treatments in clinical testing which will hopefully come to fruition. Just keep on fighting your hair loss until the day these are a reality.

        BTW how old are you and what norwood are you?

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        • clarence
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 278

          blah blah blah...

          Go make a philosophy thread or something

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          • garethbale
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 603

            Originally posted by clarence
            blah blah blah...

            Go make a philosophy thread or something
            are you addressing me?

            If so, WTF are you talking about!?

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            • Breaking Bald
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 598

              Where exactly was everyone expecting to see the results? On the individuals websites of histogen, aderans etc? Seems a shame that there was such a build to the congress and we are still awaiting in the dark...

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              • PatientlyWaiting
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1637

                Originally posted by Pentarou
                I think we'd all better get used to accepting that if there is ever anything new for combating MPB that is real, available and proven in our lifetimes, it's obviously decades away, and all we have is Fin, Dut and Rogaine for now, in terms of anything short of surgery. This "congress", it's all hot air and theorizing and masturbation but nothing of actual use for anyone. This whole industry is a hollow money making sham.
                If you catch your hair loss early enough, that's all you really need.

                I wish I had a hair loss mentor when I was younger. Some one to show me the ropes on hair loss medications. Instead I had to do it the hard way, with years of learning through forums. The results i'm seeing right now on dutasteride and rogaine in only 7 weeks, indicate that if I would have started this at 18 and stayed on it every day till the present day, I wouldn't even be here posting and would have had an NW negative 3 instead of NW3.

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                • garethbale
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 603

                  Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                  If you catch your hair loss early enough, that's all you really need.

                  I wish I had a hair loss mentor when I was younger. Some one to show me the ropes on hair loss medications. Instead I had to do it the hard way, with years of learning through forums. The results i'm seeing right now on dutasteride and rogaine in only 7 weeks, indicate that if I would have started this at 18 and stayed on it every day till the present day, I wouldn't even be here posting and would have had an NW negative 3 instead of NW3.
                  I wouldn't beat yourself up over that. Those drugs are vastly overrated. Propecia is ok for maintenance but if they can restore a good head of hair you are in the vast minority.

                  I know from my own personal experience they work ok but tend to slow down being rather than stop it

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                  • PatientlyWaiting
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1637

                    Originally posted by garethbale
                    I wouldn't beat yourself up over that. Those drugs are vastly overrated. Propecia is ok for maintenance but if they can restore a good head of hair you are in the vast minority.

                    I know from my own personal experience they work ok but tend to slow down being rather than stop it
                    True.

                    In fins case, you are right. I used fin for 3 years, just slowed down my hair loss, considerably. Fin is definitely a drug that should be used for NW1-2's who want to keep what they have. NW3-4 need Dutasteride+Rogaine to have a chance go back to NW2. NW5+ need everything, dutasteride, rogaine, spiro, nizoral shampoo, and an HT.

                    The results Dutasteride + Rogaine has given me in the short period of time i've been on it is unreal. I never would have thought this would happen even in 3-4 months, I was determined to only expect any thickening or regrowth at 6 months, at least 6 months.

                    These drugs aren't overrated at all. What's overrated is the side effect claims, IMO.

                    Anyway, wish me luck.

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                    • Kiwi
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1087

                      Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                      True.

                      In fins case, you are right. I used fin for 3 years, just slowed down my hair loss, considerably. Fin is definitely a drug that should be used for NW1-2's who want to keep what they have. NW3-4 need Dutasteride+Rogaine to have a chance go back to NW2. NW5+ need everything, dutasteride, rogaine, spiro, nizoral shampoo, and an HT.

                      The results Dutasteride + Rogaine has given me in the short period of time i've been on it is unreal. I never would have thought this would happen even in 3-4 months, I was determined to only expect any thickening or regrowth at 6 months, at least 6 months.

                      These drugs aren't overrated at all. What's overrated is the side effect claims, IMO.

                      Anyway, wish me luck.
                      That's not true.

                      I lost my ability to mantain an erection because of Fin. I don't think you'd be calling it overrated if your pecker stopped working.

                      Fortunately for me everything started working again.

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                      • Kiwi
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1087

                        Bring on Histogen!!!

                        Bring on topical fin (if it had no sides and is even more effective)

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                        • Kiwi
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1087

                          Originally posted by garethbale
                          What?? I can't hear you...

                          get Gho's balls out your mouth, then speak
                          Haha!! It's hard to understand ironman these days isn't it - haha full of Gho balls!!

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                          • Pentarou
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 482

                            Originally posted by garethbale
                            I wouldn't beat yourself up over that. Those drugs are vastly overrated. Propecia is ok for maintenance but if they can restore a good head of hair you are in the vast minority.

                            I know from my own personal experience they work ok but tend to slow down being rather than stop it
                            All they offer is managed decline, really. We need something that can roll back the clock and actually regrow lost hair.

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                            • Kiwi
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1087

                              Originally posted by Pentarou
                              All they offer is managed decline, really. We need something that can roll back the clock and actually regrow lost hair.
                              Exactly. A managed decline of your hair and your erections.

                              AWESOME THANKS PROPECIA!!!!

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                              • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 638

                                guys we must find out if any news on histogen phase ever existed on that congress and not argue about the awfull treatments we have that kill sex.

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