Dr Nigams - NSN Donor regeneration!

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  • didi
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1360

    #76
    i could tell you 'how i know it' but guys this is public forum...keep it real

    i cant reveal my sources

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    • 534623
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1854

      #77
      Originally posted by didi

      trust me i know, besides look at her/his face...indonesians are much much darker
      Really, you know?
      How about these people ...

      Also not dark enough?

      Let me guess: Dr. Gho imported them from China ...
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      • didi
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 1360

        #78
        they all look darker in person except Novia n Gho

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        • JJJJrS
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 638

          #79
          Originally posted by didi



          80%+ donor regeneration
          I haven't done anything extensive but after looking at these pictures:

          Before Procedure
          Immediately After Procedure
          After 2 weeks

          Then it does appear that the analysis from didi's picture is accurate and 8/9 extractions had total regrowth. I highly doubt that these pictures were manipulated in any way.

          I guess the question that remains is whether the recipient had growth as well.

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          • 534623
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1854

            #80
            Originally posted by JJJJrS
            I guess the question that remains is whether the recipient had growth as well.
            That's the point...


            According to Dr. Nigam explanations - he performed Dr. Gho's old FM method.

            It doesn't matter what shit he applied to the holes in the donor area or to the (amputated) grafts in the recipient area - the method itself IS basically Dr. Gho's old FM method.
            Because guess what, for example, ...


            ... they do since more than 10 years and still perform today?

            So why don't you guys buy completely the same from others who perform this since more than a decade?
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            • JJJJrS
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 638

              #81
              Originally posted by 534623
              That's the point...


              According to Dr. Nigam explanations - he performed Dr. Gho's old FM method.

              It doesn't matter what shit he applied to the holes in the donor area or to the (amputated) grafts in the recipient area - the method itself IS basically Dr. Gho's old FM method.
              Because guess what, for example, ...


              ... they do since more than 10 years and still perform today?
              The FM technique usually results in 20-70% donor regeneration according to Gho. In this case Nigam has achieved 88% regeneration.

              Of course, these pictures don't mean much without including the recipient but it's more than I expected.

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                #82
                Originally posted by JJJJrS
                Then it does appear that the analysis from didi's picture is accurate and 8/9 extractions had total regrowth. I highly doubt that these pictures were manipulated in any way.
                My point never was that the pictures were manipulated. My point is that if I were a doctor who wanted to commit fraud, then I'd make sure I'd leave the grafts in that focus area, around the mole, in tact, to ensure 100%-ish regrowth.

                Again, I'm really not saying Dr Nigam is a fraud, at this point I'm kind of 50/50. Could be, could be not. Just saying that after all we've seen from him that skepticism is needed.

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4419

                  #83
                  Originally posted by JJJJrS
                  The FM technique usually results in 20-70% donor regeneration according to Gho. In this case Nigam has achieved 88% regeneration.

                  Of course, these pictures don't mean much without including the recipient but it's more than I expected.
                  That sounds right with Dr. Cole's assessment that on average 50% were regenerating.

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                  • JJJJrS
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 638

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Arashi
                    My point never was that the pictures were manipulated. My point is that if I were a doctor who wanted to commit fraud, then I'd make sure I'd leave the grafts in that focus area, around the mole, in tact, to ensure 100% regrowth.

                    Again, I'm really not saying Dr Nigam is a fraud, at this point I'm kind of 50/50. Could be, could be not. Just saying that after all we've seen from him that skepticism is needed.
                    I'm not implying that you said that. This is just a general observation I had after looking at the photos.

                    And I agree about the skepticism. I still remember the photoshopped pictures which is why I'm surprised to suddenly see results like this.

                    In the end though, the most important thing is evidence. If Nigam supplies enough over time than that will speak for itself.

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                    • Arashi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 3888

                      #85
                      Originally posted by JJJJrS
                      In the end though, the most important thing is evidence. If Nigam supplies enough over time than that will speak for itself.
                      Agreed and exactly my point. We need evidence, not words.

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                      • 534623
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1854

                        #86
                        Originally posted by JJJJrS
                        The FM technique usually results in 20-70% donor regeneration according to Gho. In this case Nigam has achieved 88% regeneration.

                        Of course, these pictures don't mean much without including the recipient but it's more than I expected.
                        pfffff - simply cut off the distal part (the upper-most part) from grafts and you will get 100% regeneration in every idiot (patient) or "show-case" and every extraction hole - especially if you hear someone claiming "we could see regrowth just after 1 day".

                        Or did you see neversaynever's WHOLE donor area ...


                        ... shortly and even day-by-day after extractions as everybody could see this in my and gc's case? No.

                        You guys through around all fictiv numbers and percentages and believe everything is real and "is THE number for each and every patient and procedure" - and just because they see a smal pic of a very small test area or can read simply bold claims - from an extremely questionable source, in addition. Whereby the 'questionable source' has desperate need to prove something.

                        Sometimes I really wonder whether or not there is a causal relationship between hair loss and stupidness.

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          #87
                          Originally posted by JJJJrS
                          I'm not implying that you said that. This is just a general observation I had after looking at the photos.

                          And I agree about the skepticism. I still remember the photoshopped pictures which is why I'm surprised to suddenly see results like this.

                          In the end though, the most important thing is evidence. If Nigam supplies enough over time than that will speak for itself.
                          Can someone show me these 'photoshopped' pictures???

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                          • Arashi
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 3888

                            #88
                            Originally posted by hellouser
                            Can someone show me these 'photoshopped' pictures???
                            Sure. He posted these 2 on his website:



                            If you compare them, the before and after photo are EXACTLY the same, pixel for pixel, except the hair, LOL.

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                            • didi
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1360

                              #89
                              if dr nigam really delivers what he promissed(doubling+real HM)
                              it will be the biggest comeback in history of hair loss industry

                              from fotoshopped images to hair multiplication in 6 months

                              fingers crossed

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                              • Arashi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3888

                                #90
                                But Dr Nigam didn't only have photoshopped pictures on his website, he lied about his weightloss clinic (claiming it was his wife's, since there were tons of complaints against it, but he was caught on Indian TV claiming that it was actually HIS company). He also defended these photoshopped pictures to be real when he got confronted with them (until he couldn't deny they were fake anymore). And then there are these really pathetic attacks against Dr Gho, with for example that picture of NSN's scalp where he drew all kinds of circles, claiming it was failed regeneration, while most obviously he just randomly drew circles. But also by misrepresenting and totally exaggerating what NSN said, uptil the point where NSN said that Dr Nigam should retract these statements since they were simply not true.

                                So yeah, tons of reasons to be very VERY skeptical here. But Didi already KNOWS Dr Nigam is for real, so I'm assuming he's currently packing his bags and we'll soon see his photo's from his visit to India

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