Dr Nigams - NSN Donor regeneration!

[Arashi]

Why should I?
Did I overlook something important??

Am I mistakenly biased towards Dr. Gho??
Please let me know ...


And who in this pic is "Chinese"?

For one, you were very reluctant to start analyzing recipient as well. It just makes perfect sense to not only look at donor but also at recipient. That's why in my book you're biased. But then again, nobody is really neutral, everybody has his own take on reality. You do, I do, Didi does. But my point is that Didi is just spreading all kinds of weird, twisted, unfunded statements about both doctors. That just does not make any sense or helps discussion at all.

[534623]

I've NEVER seen IM say anything negative about Gho.

Why should I?
Did I overlook something important??

Am I mistakenly biased towards Dr. Gho??
Please let me know ...


And who in this pic is "Chinese"?

The answer is - NOBODY.

[Arashi]

and arashi said lot of chinese companies are scam....

That's just a fact. This research company does interesting work and has exposed tons of Chinese fraudulent companies: http://www.muddywatersresearch.com/research/

But my point was not that all Chinese companies are fraud, the majority is not. My point was that you just can't be naive and trust words. We need solid proof, especially after the photoshopped picture and his lies about his weightloss clinic.

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

people stop arguing like that, i do not see what the problem is, if nigam is the same or better than ghoo and proves with pictures he is welcome.

we are loosing hair , someone to save us from the situation of being bald sometime is good thing, why fight who is going to be i dont understand

[didi]

this forum is hilarious


Iron man

how come you dont know that gho is chinese, even didi knows that(also some other hasci dr/s are chinese descent)....how do I knw all that you wonder

and arashi said lot of chinese companies are scam....

[Arashi]

his german labs cost more than that,

Which lab ? All we've seen are some photo's of his microscope. And what makes you think he paid for the equipment himself and not some investor/bank loaned it to him ?

he is milioanire already

How do you know ? Are you his accountant ?

this guy is onto something

You keep saying that, but where's the proof ?

"Ironman in my opinion is Gho-biased"
Arashi, 2nd of April 2013

What's so weird about that. I've NEVER seen IM say anything negative about Gho. On the other hand, he's done very good research and presented us with very well documented and illustrated case research. YOU on the other hand, did nothing but make tons of weird, twisted and unfunded claims about both Gho and Nigam.

[didi]

his german labs cost more than that,

he is milioanire already, he aims higher


this guy is onto something


BTW, this is statement of the year

"Ironman in my opinion is Gho-biased"
Arashi, 2nd of April 2013

[534623]

arashi

same could be said abt gho, he is chinese btw

Really? I didn't know that Dr. Gho is a Chinese.

And that is completely "normal" for you:
Making claims simply out of his ass.

If I would charge you $100 for every misleading claim you make out of your ass - I would be richer than "rich".

[Arashi]

nigam is not publicly listed company, doesnt need propaganda to temporarily inflate share prices,

If Nigam could just get 125 naive people like you to his clinic, charge them $8000 for 2000 grafts, then he's made a million USD, which by Indian standard surely is enough to retire.

[Arashi]

arashi

same could be said abt gho

And that is just not true. This is what I mean, you make all kind of twisted weird statements about Gho, while we have tons of evidence. Look at the 3 extremely well documented and researched treatments of GC83UK. But there are tons of other Gho patients here, some documented their cases, others didnt, but everybody is happy. And you say otherwise ?

[didi]

arashi

same could be said abt gho, he is chinese btw

we havent proven that he isnt scamming people..true? just bc its scarless doesnt mean its what he says it is..most fue doctors think he is hoax

you seem sold on hst but doubt others, i can sense bias...or are you just stpid or naive


nigam is not publicly listed company, doesnt need propaganda to temporarily inflate share prices,
would he be so stupid to waste all his time and money on something he doesnt believe in? he knows that he is under spotlight and needs to deliever, he wont get single western customer unless he is legit, he knows that
he is not crazy to invest all these money into labs, equipment, miscoscope,etc for nothing

[534623]

"FCI [follicular cell implantation] has often been referred to by the misnomers hair cloning or hair multiplication. These terms are misleading and fail to accurately describe what is meant by follicular cell implantation."

And what is "Hair Stem Cell Transplantation® (HST)"? lol

[One]

Dr Nigam we are all with you, keep it up to show clear photos.

Keep prices low for those in the forum, please.

Compliments.

[Arashi]

NSN is not nigams man? he is old forum member..unless nigam bribed him,

these regrowth pic around bmark are taken by NSN?

Really ? Look I work as a stock trader. I see fraud all the time, especially in asian (chinese) companies. Whenever such company releases a press event stating that they're going to 'better their lives' and release all requested documentation to the SEC, then that means NOTHING to me. Because if you were a fraud and you would want people to buy your stock, wouldn't you say the same thing ?

Now I'm not saying Dr Nigam is a fraud. I'm just saying that after all that has happened, with the photoshopped picture on his website and the lies about his weightloss clinic, that we need to see SOLID evidence.

You present the birthmark photo as evidence, but what would you do if you were a fraud ? Wouldn't you just simulate extraction around that birthmark and leave the whole graft in tact ? That is why we need to see both pre-op photo's and post-op photo's of the WHOLE donor area.

At this point I'm just wondering if you're too stupid to understand all this or just too naive.

[534623]

Be ready there will be at least 25 case studies with documentation in 2013 on hair doubling followed with hair tripling,followed with HM+plus dp culture (the real old stuff ?). And yes documentation with many independent forum members.

Yes, more than 50 years old stuff.
But I don't expect that you know all this - I mean, everything about the history around culturing of dermal papilla cells and dermal papilla studies since more than 50 years - until today.

Just a well-known example (Intercytex/Dr. Jerry Cooley) ...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2884703/

Often tried - never reached ...

btw - I find especially the following part from this "study" highly comical:

"FCI [follicular cell implantation] has often been referred to by the misnomers hair cloning or hair multiplication. These terms are misleading and fail to accurately describe what is meant by follicular cell implantation. In FCI, new follicles are induced by the cultured DP cells in conjunction with existing epidermis in the scalp, so that new follicles are a combination of the implanted cells and target epidermis. DP cells are not cloned, nor are whole follicles multiplied, although the idea that many new follicles are formed is correct."

But who the hell is talking today about "FCI"??

Here is what the father of "Hair Multiplication" has to say ...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/What-is-Hair-Multiplication.wmv

Furthermore, I didn't know that you can't call normal 'cell division' OR provoked cell division due to culturing of cells as "cloning" of cells, because what else is it, if you try to get (in vivo or in vitro) more cells from a certain number of cells (parent cells) - especially, when these cells produce genetically completely identical daughter cells?
But who cares ...