Mousseigne, french doctor, on the road of donor regeneration

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  • hellouser
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    Those prices are definitely way too high.

    The evidence thus far looks good, but god damn those prices are out of reach for so many people, they'll just opt out and go with Gho, especially since he's got more clinics as well.

    Like I said, it cant be a 'me-too' product (or service) without anything superior for a significantly higher price.

    It really needs to be said, that baldness is no joke and to pay such high prices should not be the reality we live in. I would of course give a lot of my hard earned cash to reverse my mental health, depression, quality of life, social anxiety, etc if it meant getting back my hair..... but there are bounderies, and asking for more than $20,000 per session is going well beyond that boundary. It needs to be less than Gho's pricing. Period.

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  • caddarik79
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    Originally posted by greatjob!
    Oh I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? I wasn't specifically talking about you. More these comments:





    People are making assumptions before any information is released and it no doubt is going to get worse. No one is going to come on here ever if they just get bashed before they even come out the gate. If someone is a shill or a scamer, then fine, but this guy hasn't released any information and already people are starting to freak out. I can only imagine what is going to happen when Ironman and the other Gho fanboys get involved. And i'll use whatever words I want including idiot thank you very much

    The same thing that happens on this site all the time is happening with this thread just like replicel, aderans, ect. A little bit of information gets released and then there are 20 pages of outrageous speculation based on nothing.





    Call me idiot, I don't give a f... my point is very simple, if the actual FUE of this doctor is already more expensive then the actual HST of Gho, tell me in the name of what he would bring his brand new amaaaaaaazing regeneration technique for a cheaper price??? are you kidding?

    It's pure logic and mathematic... old rubbish FUE more expensive then Gho HST means that brand new FUE-L will be for millionaires.

    I said in the end of my post that I might be wrong but it does not smell good.
    I am actually taking position to defend us and I'm not a Gho fanboy, just realistic...
    They will jump on the fact that Gho is controversial, and they will try to have the good role of the one Docteur bringing something very documented...they had time to analyze this forum (are you naive? look at the way Mathieu is teasing here) and see on what people are angry about Gho and they will just play it differently...but trust me, the prices are not going to go down.

    I would never have said that if his FUE were not craaaaaaazily expensive!!!!!
    17.000 euros for 2.500 grafts with no regeneration...are you joking?



    I got 1800 HST grafts for 9.400 euros, he is asking 10.500 euros for 1500 unregenerated f*ck*ng FUE.... who the hell is the idiot? the prices are ridiculous, I repeat RI-DI-CU-LOUS.


    I'm just wondering why pharma and suregeons are sooo punishing hair loss people, when I see the prices proposed for who wants to fix something.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by Mathieu
    I'll address tomorrow (or very soon) your concern about pricing and so on.

    But, right now, could anyone tell me how to contact Winston privately so he can edit one of my posts in the other thread?
    It seems that my only option is to publish a comment on his profile's wall. I actually just sent a message through the "contact us" page, but I don't know if this is an appropriate way to have my post edited asap.
    Posts can only be modified for a certain period of time, I think the cutoff is 10 minutes or so.

    Theres no way to private message forum members so your best way of contacting him is by leaving a comment on his profile page.

    Which is too bad, because these two things are a major burden especially since I just started a log thread about my RU58841 and Minox experience. I dont want to keep adding replies in random pages but rather update the first post.

    Anyway, looking forward to more news from you. THANKS!

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  • Mathieu
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    I'll address tomorrow (or very soon) your concern about pricing and so on.

    But, right now, could anyone tell me how to contact Winston privately so he can edit one of my posts in the other thread?
    It seems that my only option is to publish a comment on his profile's wall. I actually just sent a message through the "contact us" page, but I don't know if this is an appropriate way to have my post edited asap.

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  • greatjob!
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    Originally posted by MrBlonde
    Nobody is jumping on him before he posts anything so calm down with the use of idiot.

    We are talking about what we already know of the guy and there is no denying that his prices are very high. They are very unreasonable and I don't see how they can be justified.
    Oh I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? I wasn't specifically talking about you. More these comments:

    Originally posted by caddarik79
    His prices are ridiculously high for FUE..

    You can already forget about the prices going down, he is even more expensive then Gho, I have no trust in people able to ask that much money from people dealing with an already depressing issue like baldness...

    i'm already laughing at the answer of Mathieu about the commercial aspects, LOL, of course it's not the right time to talk about, you first need to exist in the regenration market, but we know already that you won't bring the prices down, so I will keep it with Maastricht and Amsterdam...I prefer thei communication... and I think Gho will bring even more things in the coming years.

    So even if I was enthusiastic at the beginning, now that I know mousseigne price for old FUE, I don't even want to know what the dude will ask for regeneration....keep your money guyz, you will be able to do two Gho sessions for One Mousseigne...I'm sure of it!!!
    Originally posted by caddarik79
    It will be good for rich people, but like you said, shave and move on and wait untill prices really go down... they are surfing on this wave now and have no pity for people suffering...they just want money, regarding his FUE prices, I guess new technique will be 30.000 euros for 1500 fu'k'ng regenerated grafts...let me laugh!!!!

    I might be wrong, but I smell no crazy good news here.
    People are making assumptions before any information is released and it no doubt is going to get worse. No one is going to come on here ever if they just get bashed before they even come out the gate. If someone is a shill or a scamer, then fine, but this guy hasn't released any information and already people are starting to freak out. I can only imagine what is going to happen when Ironman and the other Gho fanboys get involved. And i'll use whatever words I want including idiot thank you very much

    The same thing that happens on this site all the time is happening with this thread just like replicel, aderans, ect. A little bit of information gets released and then there are 20 pages of outrageous speculation based on nothing.

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  • MrBlonde
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    Originally posted by greatjob!
    You guys crack me up. You guys constantly complain about the lack of companies and doctors on the boards sharing information and then when one comes on here, he posts two comments saying he will post some information soon and before he does all you idiots jump on here and dismiss him before any information is posted. Good work...
    Nobody is jumping on him before he posts anything so calm down with the use of idiot.

    We are talking about what we already know of the guy and there is no denying that his prices are very high. They are very unreasonable and I don't see how they can be justified.

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  • greatjob!
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    You guys crack me up. You guys constantly complain about the lack of companies and doctors on the boards sharing information and then when one comes on here, he posts two comments saying he will post some information soon and before he does all you idiots jump on here and dismiss him before any information is posted. Good work...

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  • FearTheLoss
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    I think we should let them finish all their documentation and commercialize it before we jump to asking about the price already. Let them do one thing at a time for us.

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  • Tacola
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    Maybe Mathieu should give a comment about the price? Even though it most likely will be too expensive for most people. Mathieu, a comment on this?

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by The Alchemist
    There is no justification for that price. Not sure how many patients are spending 17k for 2500 grafts, but, i can guarantee you it's not anywhere near the numbers that would sign up if the price were inline with what other surgeons are charging. For every one that he gets at that price, he's going to miss out on 50. You can ignore the market, but, it's not going to ignore you.
    Hit the nail on the head.

    The market is HUGE, theres no shortage now or in the future for patients. Bring down the prices and you'll basically be doing men all over the world a massive favor. I've got some money already saved up for HST with Gho, but if we can get a better deal with regeneration, I won't hesitate for a second to go elsewhere.

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  • The Alchemist
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    Originally posted by MrBlonde
    His prices are crazy high. €17,000 for 2500 grafts. He will more likely increase that price when it comes with donor regeneration.

    There is no justification for that price. Not sure how many patients are spending 17k for 2500 grafts, but, i can guarantee you it's not anywhere near the numbers that would sign up if the price were inline with what other surgeons are charging. For every one that he gets at that price, he's going to miss out on 50. You can ignore the market, but, it's not going to ignore you.

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  • hellouser
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    Here's something he's going to have to consider;

    If his prices are higher than Gho's, I very much doubt anyone will go to him for a procedure whereas Gho has been around for a while and has been basically a proven treatment.

    Markets don't allow you to come out with a 'me too' product at a higher price, he's going to have to offer either something better or the same for less, otherwise he's shooting himself in the foot.

    The need for prices to come down is essential. Do that and you open the floodgates for a massive stream of clients. And no, $500 less won't cut it, its gotta be substantially less.

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  • caddarik79
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    Yes hopefully there will be other doctors (americans, turkish, germans, belgians) who will come to that and hopefully some of them will bring the prices more democratic, but Mousseigne, regarding his FUE crazy disgusting prices, I would not even consider...

    It will be good for rich people, but like you said, shave and move on and wait untill prices really go down... they are surfing on this wave now and have no pity for people suffering...they just want money, regarding his FUE prices, I guess new technique will be 30.000 euros for 1500 fu'k'ng regenerated grafts...let me laugh!!!!

    I might be wrong, but I smell no crazy good news here.

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  • Tacola
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    Originally posted by MrBlonde
    His prices are crazy high. €17,000 for 2500 grafts. He will more likely increase that price when it comes with donor regeneration.

    I could get about 2600 grafts for 7k.

    It might be an option to get your hairline done really well and dence packed first and take the hit on the donor area and then fill in the crown and other areas with this treatment when the price comes down in a few years.

    Right now no matter what the results I would not consider or be able to afford it.
    Wow, that`s just crazy!

    Well I guess it`s a good thing that more and more get into regeneration. For me, and most people, there is no chance to pay this amount of money. Then I rather cut my hair short and wait But either way, it`s nice if this guy is legit. That means that there are more and more doctors working on it. It`s just a matter of time before the price has to go down.

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  • caddarik79
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    His prices are ridiculously high for FUE..

    You can already forget about the prices going down, he is even more expensive then Gho, I have no trust in people able to ask that much money from people dealing with an already depressing issue like baldness...

    i'm already laughing at the answer of Mathieu about the commercial aspects, LOL, of course it's not the right time to talk about, you first need to exist in the regenration market, but we know already that you won't bring the prices down, so I will keep it with Maastricht and Amsterdam...I prefer thei communication... and I think Gho will bring even more things in the coming years.

    So even if I was enthusiastic at the beginning, now that I know mousseigne price for old FUE, I don't even want to know what the dude will ask for regeneration....keep your money guyz, you will be able to do two Gho sessions for One Mousseigne...I'm sure of it!!!

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