Mousseigne, french doctor, on the road of donor regeneration

[caddarik79]

And yes his little attack and comparison with "coke addicted chimp" looked very unprofessional and was not even funny (I prefer IM little badass reactions)
I am not the doctor representative, I don't have to look professional and still, I think I did not insult anyone, I just decided to focus on the price, because this is a very big point (if you read other threads, about Gho for example, you will see that price is an issue for the big majority)... but Mathieu here looked like an asshole, very too easily upset by skeptical or insisting forum members, categorising them very quickly and insulting, that looked lame... far from Gho team professionnalism + why is it so upseting to have people being completely disgusted by huge FUE prices?

Now for sure I can shut up (and I will, lol)and let him develop what he has to show us, but I will definitely be there when the prices question will come on the table....

so you guyz, stop being so a** licking and calling other forum members assholes, just because you are tooo excited by a newcomer...It's OK, it's a very good news, now don't let him divide us to reign...

[cocacola]

I dont understand why so much fuss here lol. Lets just wait and see whats the deal instead of speculating.

[caddarik79]

Mathieu, I really liked your posts in the other thread, such a relief to see someone who actually wants to wait for results instead of posting photoshopped and stolen pictures. But if I may give you one piece of advice: don't attack any forum members, it makes you look unprofessional. Yes there are some a$$holes in here but just ignore them and come back here once you have new info to share. Oh and Winston is doing a decent job recently as well so if you feel insulted by someone, just report it to Winston.

Good luck and all the best to you !

Arashi, I don't get that you all behave like this...
Yes, it is a good news to see that another doctor is starting in the same field as Gho, I'm the first to applause and be happy.
Now, you should not betray your "buddies" or "mates" fromthe forum and agree with Mathieu when he calls them "assholes" just because we focus on the one important question : the price, for God sake.

It's like there are here, only a bunch of selfish rich losing hair dudes who don't care if it's unaffordable since it is affordable for them.

It was not completely stupid to focus and ask question about the actual price policy of Mousseigne, even if he is talented.

So when you guyzzz are just behaving like he was sent by God and no matter the price, we will pay for quality, you are not helping the hair loss community, you are just being selfish.

I can also afford it, but I don't want to, I already consider Gho as expensive, I don't want you or Mathieu to ignore that very matter, it is unfair to ask people to pay the price of an appartment to restore their full head of hair.

Sure, the technical discussions, the documentation, the cases of Mousseigne, all this material will be interesting, but when you hear so many people in the forum already considering Gho like toooooooo expensive, and depressed by this, you should not selfishly say to Mathieu that you would pay 17K for one session, it's not fair.

Hopefully, Mathieu will bring the answers on that very question...

Et Mathieu, je me demande si t'es pas le même gars qui a commencé sa carrière de "forum fisher" sur Doctissimo au début des années 2000...non?

[Sogeking]

LEt's see.

[Arashi]

When I read forums, and BTT is unfortunately no exception, I often imagine that some users' head is a hollow cavity hosting a screaming, randomly jumping around chimp which is high on coke. I admit that this hysteria is both entertaining and distressing to watch. I also very much doubt it can be stopped with rational & honest arguments.... so I guess I'll just have to cope with it!

Anyway, I notice that the last pages are filled with agressive rants & speculations, fueled mostly by simplistic & demagogic reasonings. Some guys obviously have no grasp of economics, just as much as they ignore this particular HT market's reality.

Give me a few hours and I'll answer in detail to your main concerns. Hopefully it will clear out any misunderstanding for those who, inside their head, have an operative brain instead of a raging coke-addicted chimp.

Mathieu, I really liked your posts in the other thread, such a relief to see someone who actually wants to wait for results instead of posting photoshopped and stolen pictures. But if I may give you one piece of advice: don't attack any forum members, it makes you look unprofessional. Yes there are some a$$holes in here but just ignore them and come back here once you have new info to share. Oh and Winston is doing a decent job recently as well so if you feel insulted by someone, just report it to Winston.

Good luck and all the best to you !

[gc83uk]

Enter the Gho fanboys...

Didums....

[greatjob!]

Whinging about whinging! Nobody cares pal.

Enter the Gho fanboys...

[caddarik79]

caddarick79, you need to chill out. You didn't ask questions in a dialogical & civil way; instead, you immediately resorted to controversy and anathema.

Dr Mousseigne reads this board, you don't need to threaten me with denunciation

Maybe you should remain quiet until I release relevant informations about cost issues and other matters, don't you think? That may be a fair and wise initiative, as suggested by other BTT members.

I think I will find myself a zoo and prepare an ultimate chimp numero ;-)


You know the general atmosphere of forums, it should not surprise you.
I reacted on facts (prices on your site), nothing suspect here, just a reaction...and I am a potential patient, not the communication assistant of a doctor... I might not have been the most civil, but you know there are so many cupid, greedy, unethic people in the field (you know this huge french cosmetic company/empire who sells stem cells snakeoils for 100 euro per month) of hair loss that people start to be tired and defensive.

Now, you might surprise us, you seem confident, maybe you are a good news...
But it makes sense to assume you will ask more money for FUE-L then for FUE, and your FUE is ridiculously expensive!!!! simple deduction...

Now if you proof us wrong, it's all benefit for everybody, especially if you bring something as good as what Gho is offering...which still indeed, needs to be demonstrated.

[TravisB]

Lol, what's the deal with sudden break out of donor regeneration techniques?

It looks like anyone know how to do donor regeneration these days.

First it was Gho (but his legitimacy isn't confirmed), then Nigam and now some Frenchman.

Something is not right here.

[gc83uk]

Oh I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? I wasn't specifically talking about you. More these comments:





People are making assumptions before any information is released and it no doubt is going to get worse. No one is going to come on here ever if they just get bashed before they even come out the gate. If someone is a shill or a scamer, then fine, but this guy hasn't released any information and already people are starting to freak out. I can only imagine what is going to happen when Ironman and the other Gho fanboys get involved. And i'll use whatever words I want including idiot thank you very much

The same thing that happens on this site all the time is happening with this thread just like replicel, aderans, ect. A little bit of information gets released and then there are 20 pages of outrageous speculation based on nothing.

Whinging about whinging! Nobody cares pal.

[Mathieu]

caddarick79, you need to chill out. You didn't ask questions in a dialogical & civil way; instead, you immediately resorted to controversy and anathema.

Dr Mousseigne reads this board, you don't need to threaten me with denunciation

Maybe you should remain quiet until I release relevant informations about cost issues and other matters, don't you think? That may be a fair and wise initiative, as suggested by other BTT members.

[caddarik79]

And I will add that you suck at prospecting, stay cool and professional, don't call people "hysterical chimp" when they just underline that your prices are robbery, litteraly!!!


Don't play it too friendly and don't play it wrong like really insulting people.

If you are so smart, you know that people dealing with hair loss are not the happiest every day, if you are still a bit smart, you know that not everybody can give 20.000 dollars to keep a barely acceptable hairline with a poor 2500 fue grafts.

So, be the Messiah, be the one who really makes everybody happy and impatient here, don't be this pretentious easily upset Mousseigne ambassador, cause I would write to him just to tell him how you suck.

We are open, but not for being abused or manipulated.

I can't wait for your breaking stuffs, I will be the first to read and stay up to date.

[caddarik79]

When I read forums, and BTT is unfortunately no exception, I often imagine that some users' head is a hollow cavity hosting a screaming, randomly jumping around chimp which is high on coke. I admit that this hysteria is both entertaining and distressing to watch. I also very much doubt it can be stopped with rational & honest arguments.... so I guess I'll just have to cope with it!

Anyway, I notice that the last pages are filled with agressive rants & speculations, fueled mostly by simplistic & demagogic reasonings. Some guys obviously have no grasp of economics, just as much as they ignore this particular HT market's reality.

Give me a few hours and I'll answer in detail to your main concerns. Hopefully it will clear out any misunderstanding for those who, inside their head, have an operative brain instead of a raging coke-addicted chimp.

LOL that's a very professional answer ;-)

I think we are right to ask about what will be your future price policy, especially regarding your actual price policy, 17.000 euros for 2500 grafts.

Why is it so disturbing? it totally makes sense to ask it as a very first question.
And as a strategy, I would advise you to tease us on that very matter...As you are not the first one bringing regenerative donor, if you want to make a difference it's either 100% regeneration and bigger sessions or same as Gho for less money.

I was the first to mention you here, until I discovered your prices for FUE...there is something really wrong with it.


Anyway, no hard feelings, be the one who brings the very good news of may, that will be refreshing.

[Delphi]

Personally, I'm not sure if this guy is legit, but bitching about his prices is a big waist of time. Payday makes sense, people can charge whatever they want, you do not have to pay it. You have complete control over that.

[PayDay]

Yes BMW should be outlawed because YOU cant afford to buy one of their cars.

Let the doctor charge 20 - 30k you get what you pay for, if you want scars and thin balding donor region then go pay 3,000 euros for a regular FUE.

We all have the choice to vote with our pocketbooks. If you don't like the guy's prices, don't pay them

If he's offering the same FUE as other doctors, then logically there is no reason to pay so much more, unless you have the deposable income to pay the extra money for convenience of proximity or for some other personal reason. There are many doctors who charge $9 or $10 a graft in the U.S. and people pay it. It's their choice and if enough people choose not to pay those rates then the prices will go down. Its basic supply and demand economics.

It's the way the world works. If you want to change it, then go to medical school, become a HT doctor and charge what you consider a reasonable rate for the service.

@ Mathieu, You're not going to change the mentality of these people, so don't even try to address it.
I do hope that your clinic is offering something real here, but either way you will be abused by some of the people on here. Most of us, however are probably very reasonable.