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  • 534623
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1854

    #16
    Originally posted by hellouser

    There is a possibility that Phase III trials have already started ...
    As long as a phase III trail is not reported HERE ...



    ... a phase III trail simply doesn't exist!

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    • krewel
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 187

      #17
      Originally posted by 534623
      As long as a phase III trail is not reported HERE ...



      ... a phase III trail simply doesn't exist!
      Not all trials are listed on this page and mostly delayed.

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        #18
        Originally posted by john2399
        we still need a link to confirm this phase 3 trial...can't believe anyone on this board.


        This is one entry for their Phase II Clinical Trials, some of their Phase II trials have already been long completed last year.

        This one here shows it will be collected for data in April, so the trial as I pointed out earlier will be finished by end of March (I doubt they'll have data and completion at the SAME time).

        Click on search results at the top left for more of their ongoing trials.

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          #19
          Originally posted by krewel
          Wasn't that you who talked with them on the phone? They said they already started looking for participants some months ago.
          Yes, I called them last year and spoke to a VERY nice (and sexy sounding) girl over the phone. She said they were finishing up and starting Phase III soon. I made a long comment/reply somewhere on the forum in regards to my discussion with her, but this was a while back, I think sometime during Spring or something... can't remember, the past 12 months have been crazy for me.

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4419

            #20
            Originally posted by 534623
            As long as a phase III trail is not reported HERE ...



            ... a phase III trail simply doesn't exist!
            Bollocks. That site isn't updated as often as you would like it to be. I'm willing to bet my left nut that theres at least one clinical trial from Aderans that has been completed but not updated on the listings.

            Doesn't matter much though, Aderans seems to be on schedule and THAT is what we should be stoked about.

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            • Desmond84
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 987

              #21
              Originally posted by 534623
              …and their next big target will be to recommend you to move on with it, to hold somewhat longer their few sparse cell-based created zombies in the transition zones between game-over hairs and permanent hairs, in an effort to cork Jahoda's discovered 'leakage' somewhat.
              I think we should definitely point out that MPB is a progressive condition and logically those in earlier stages of MPB would benefit far more than those in the latter stages. That is because Ji Gami was unable to create new hair follicles in human scalp but simply revived semi-miniturised ones.

              So, if you're between NW1-NW3 then giving you a chance to keep your current hair for another 10 years without any potential sexual side effects would be a gift that our fathers never even dreamt of!

              Those above NW3 will benefit to some extent but may need to try and combine it with a hair transplant to get to NW2 or better!

              But having said that, most of the guys on this forum have started to go through MPB in the last 2-3 years and will be more than happy to keep their hairs at NW2-2.5 for a good 10 years!

              P.S. We shouldn't forget that hair is simply for aesthetics. As long as it is growing sufficiently for us to be able to style it, being in a 'zombie' like state as you put it is irrelevant in my opinion. (If it had other functions such as heart or kidneys then ur argument would be more than valid

              By the time its effects fade away, it is more than likely that true hair multiplication will be at our door steps somewhere post 2020.

              Instead of finding something to be upset about, we should all be celebrating if Aderans truly goes into Phase 3!

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              • Desmond84
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 987

                #22
                Originally posted by 534623
                Anyway, my friend Desmond, nice to see you back in the good cop and bad cop game.
                LOL, I thought suffering from Hairloss is a roller coaster! Being a forum member is just as hard!

                How's ur new hair going btw? Hope its coming to fruition like u hoped

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4419

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Desmond84
                  By the time its effects fade away, it is more than likely that true hair multiplication will be at our door steps somewhere post 2020.
                  Should be available before then if Dr. Roland Lauster keeps working on his findings, he's basically got the cure.

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                  • Desmond84
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 987

                    #24
                    Lauster and Tsuji have both created new follicles in the lab

                    But, the problem is to multiply these cells to sufficient numbers without them losing their trichogenicity (hair inducing properties).

                    They're both working on that as we speak! That was what Dr. Costralis pointed out when they asked him about Tsuji & Lauster!

                    "we are still not sure if they can multiply sufficient numbers in the lab"

                    Once we can multiply enough cells to produce say 10,000 follicles from a 1cm2 biopsy then MPB is cured in true sense of the word!

                    And it's not far fetched actually. I've read a lot of recent journals that shows new ways to maintain trichogenicity of hair cells for up to 3 months!

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                    • FearTheLoss
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 1581

                      #25
                      Originally posted by hellouser
                      Should be available before then if Dr. Roland Lauster keeps working on his findings, he's basically got the cure.
                      Someone really needs to try to make contact with Lauster and team tokyo and find out if they are continuing their research in this field and get an update.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        #26
                        Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                        Someone really needs to try to make contact with Lauster and team tokyo and find out if they are continuing their research in this field and get an update.
                        I sent him an e-mail last week. I hope he responds... eventually.

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                        • FearTheLoss
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1581

                          #27
                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          I sent him an e-mail last week. I hope he responds... eventually.
                          Well if not, send him 5000 more emails until he does haha

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                          • Desmond84
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 987

                            #28
                            Tsuji Labs is definitely continuing their studies

                            You can check out their website! Their pre-clinical studies is set to finish by 2017. They should start Phase 1 sometimes around then!

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4419

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Desmond84
                              Tsuji Labs is definitely continuing their studies

                              You can check out their website! Their pre-clinical studies is set to finish by 2017. They should start Phase 1 sometimes around then!
                              4 years away to end PRE-clinical trials?

                              Wow, can't say I'm excited to hear that. :/

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                              • Dirty Hairy
                                Junior Member
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 9

                                #30
                                How will Aderans work on diffusers? I'm a diffusing 5, at 27 y/o, but is this supposed to make the hair on diffusers terminal too?

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