Taking .05mg finasteride effective with fewer side effects?

[khan]

When I had it, I wouldn't get erection if the girl was naked. She had to make out with me or rub me out to get it up. Even then I had to put on the condom quickly before my penis became numb and start with the intercourse. Sometimes I couldn't ejaculate and we will be having sex for an hour or two and nothing, it got limb. The girl would trip out and question me "am i not good for you or what?" Then I replied, did you cum? and she reply Yes and the I told what the **** is the problem then? lol it happen to me with 3 different girls and eventually I never heard from them again because of it. I had it the first 4-5 months on fin...

Hey Dex! Did it get better after the 4-5months? Is it normal now?

[dex89]

Hey Dex! Did it get better after the 4-5months? Is it normal now?

Yeah khan, I'm back to normal.

[khan]

Yeah khan, I'm back to normal.

Thats great to hear Dex

I've been on it for 18months with no sides, but I get scared reading stuff every now and then. But happy for you man!

[unk]

win200

You can make up your own mind if someone had working links to wherever "buddha" (author of the webpage linked in post #1) got his Merck data. It's too late right now for me to search through journals, sorry. I will however give you a summarise to the best of my memory (though you should note - i'm not sure i've seen the ostrogen data the dude quoted).

The study shows 0.05mg inhibits very little less scalp DHT than 1mg (a few &#37, whilst inhbiting 20% less serum DHT (the big question - less chance of side effects? Not that simple based on pharmacological accumulation of drugs meaning dose could be useless), and causes less increase in testosterone (another big question - less conversion to oestrogen and chance of developing gyno? Another not simple question, as testosterone might balance out long-term, in addition to other factors).

On the face of it, the data seems significant. HOWEVER, you're welcome to disagree, but the data to me seems debunked by the fact that the 0.2mg dose did not provide "expected" values for these 3 measures above between 0.5mg and 1mg dose. Thus, can we really draw any reliable conclusions from the data provided?

To summarise, 0.05mg is much cheaper (20x), MAY have a reduced chance of causing side effects. However, it inhibits DHT slightly less, and trying to get a 0.05mg dose from a 1/5mg pill is highly inconvenient and likely inaccurate.

Also important, Desmond (a self-reported pharmacologist - no offence Desmond, I've got to stay objective here!) mentioned the difference between a plasma half-life (the ~6 hours usually reported for finasteride), and a biological half-life (what we are actually interested in - how long the pharmacological effects of a drug remain before another dose is required). Correct me if i'm wrong Desmond, but based on some studies of a single dose of finasteride given to people (again, you'll have to get these yourself I'm afraid), along with how half-lives of drugs alter with prolonged use (the longer you take a drug, the more build-up and the longer clearance takes), YOU SHOULD DOSE BEFORE EVERY 3RD DAY.

Personally, I'm just taking any dose I see fit, every other day.

/sleep

[Desmond84]

Is there danger to continue usage? Because I can deal with it since it's only effected my erections by like 10%.

Thanks for the reply btw!

Benzzro, majority of ppl manage to overcome the libido issues within 3-4 months. If you notice any worsening of libido, or development of new s/e (testicular pain, pain during urination/ejaculation, or pain in the groin/penis area) then you should slowly wean off propecia!

I'd stick with it for a while and monitor your sides

Hey Desmond what do you think about dissolving the fin tablet in an alcohol? Also, could a 1mg fin pill be cut 8 ways by a pill cutter? I may just take little bites off the pill, I recall a member saying he still got mild sides from doing that. For me, as long as I take between 0.05-0.2 mg every 3-5 days I would be good. Im using RU on the front of my scalp and hairline so all I am really hoping for with fin is some stability in the crown and to knock my DHT down a little.

Hey Dan, back in the old days, pharmacists used to dissolve everything in ethanol and give it to ppl as alcohol-based elixirs, so it's definitely OK to do so. Unfortunately, finasteride doesn't dissolve in water and is only soluble in alcohol. So to measure microdoses (0.05mg) dissolving in alcohol is your only option. What you can do is dissolve half a tablet (0.5mg) of propecia in 10mL of ethanol. Then measure out 1 mL and add it to some juice! Take that every 2-3 days and you should be sweet

[Desmond84]

fair enough, plus Allergan(bimatoprost) is fairly close to release so that may be a good alternative growth factor down the line if you're not interested in Min.(not super close, but 2 years or so.)

The best anyway we can do right now is maintain or slightly thicken anyway, Min doesnt exactly do all that much, but at least we can do something now, couldnt say the same thing 15 years or so ago.

Hey rdawg,

I actually managed to get my hands on the Allergans Phase I results for Bimatoprost in AGA. They found that 60% of patients did show signs of pigmentations on their skin. So, I guess I was right

This stuff would be useless once Histogen comes out!

[Desmond84]

win200

Also important, Desmond (a self-reported pharmacologist - no offence Desmond, I've got to stay objective here!) mentioned the difference between a plasma half-life (the ~6 hours usually reported for finasteride), and a biological half-life (what we are actually interested in - how long the pharmacological effects of a drug remain before another dose is required). Correct me if i'm wrong Desmond, but based on some studies of a single dose of finasteride given to people (again, you'll have to get these yourself I'm afraid), along with how half-lives of drugs alter with prolonged use (the longer you take a drug, the more build-up and the longer clearance takes), YOU SHOULD DOSE BEFORE EVERY 3RD DAY.

Personally, I'm just taking any dose I see fit, every other day.

/sleep

Yeah dude. That's right. They call that reaching a "Steady state", where rate of elimination = rate of drug absorption. So you're right, pretty much if you dose yourself before the third day, you maintain a steady state (continuously lower your serum & scalp DHT).

[JJacobs152]

Got good news and bad news. I got my fin today which is the good news, but the bad news is - the pills are in capsule form. The pharmacy where I filled my Rx compounds the 5mg fin. Meaning they crush the tablets and fill the tablets into 1mg pre-measured capsules. I'm sure you're asking what's the big deal - now I have to start with 1mg fin compared to the 0.5mg fin.

What do you guys suggest?

[thechamp]

Topical fin

I told u guys I was starting topical fin nearly two weeks ago good signs the usual propecia shed I get wile I'm on fin seemen a little watery!!

[JJacobs152]

I told u guys I was starting topical fin nearly two weeks ago good signs the usual propecia shed I get wile I'm on fin seemen a little watery!!

Where did you get this topical fin from?

[thechamp]

Made it my self

Made it bought a pill crusher a funnel put 10 mg in to 60 mls of spectral dnc, to early to say things are looking good,also I'm going to buy proscar a d up to 25 mg to 60 mills,also guys check out cutting edge future treatments conpecia people having success with topical hay fever tablets blocking pgn2!!

[thechamp]

Cetirizine

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[rdawg]

Cetirizine boys get on this forum on cutting edge future treatments, hay fever tablets aspirin it's all going on some German guys figured out something this looks like a very promising topical treatment!!

haha we cant jump to conclusions here. Safety comes before saving hairloss!

we do need more people to join in though, chemists, pharmicists, the more opinions the better.

No guarentees this product will actually work, but if it's safe to use, it's worth a try.

[rdawg]

Hey rdawg,

I actually managed to get my hands on the Allergans Phase I results for Bimatoprost in AGA. They found that 60% of patients did show signs of pigmentations on their skin. So, I guess I was right

This stuff would be useless once Histogen comes out!

That's quite dissapointing, I hope they figure out a way so that it doesn't cause it(maybe it's just the dosage?)

Either way I was never all that excited for BIM, seemed to me like a transition drug/topical until something better comes out a couple years later.

[phlifter]

yes I know this is a dead tropic, but please someone respond. I just turned 22, took fin for about a year and didnt see a problem, now I feel like my erections are not there! I switched over to 1mg tablets of Fin and still see this problem with my erection. I have just for the first time tonight cut the 1mg in half and took half! after reading every page I decided to cut the 1mg into 4 pieces and take one every mon,wed, fri. no matter how little I take this stops my hairloss so I'm not afraid of losing hair, I'm afraid of losing my manhood! do you guys recommend trying this new regiment of mon,wed,fri? also I don't take any minox, what's the best one? thanks and someone please help me! hopefully one of the pharmacists or someone who is just trying to help this 22 year olds life :/