Inconclusive rant about finasteride, DHT reduction and ways to control it.

[WashedOut]

Good to know chrisis, i told you it would take a long time. It seems to me you had low DHT to begin with that's why you had some bad side effects.

From what i've researched the higher your DHT levels, the quicker your recovery from side effects.

My recovery took days or weeks maybe(I didn't test my peckerwood within that period of time lol) because my DHT levels are pretty high.

I will try .5mg though, i had no sides at that those.

Good luck man ! Very happy for you.

This is why I think all guys should get their hormone levels checked before going on fin. There are a lot of guys that are borderline cases and fin will end up screwing them.

[chrisis]

This is why I think all guys should get their hormone levels checked before going on fin. There are a lot of guys that are borderline cases and fin will end up screwing them.

Thanks Maradona and WashedOut. There are a lot of sensible opinions coming out of the woodwork. Maybe there's hope after all.

I too agree that getting your hormone levels checked is a good idea before going on finasteride. Safety first, right! It would be good if we could establish that somehow as recommended protocol generally.

[2020]

Thanks Maradona and WashedOut. There are a lot of sensible opinions coming out of the woodwork. Maybe there's hope after all.

I too agree that getting your hormone levels checked is a good idea before going on finasteride. Safety first, right! It would be good if we could establish that somehow as recommended protocol generally.

chris, did you actually take PROPECIA as prescribed by your doctor or you just bought fin from some offshore lab?

[chrisis]

chris, did you actually take PROPECIA as prescribed by your doctor or you just bought fin from some offshore lab?

I bought the generic stuff. It's the same active ingredient.

[2020]

I bought the generic stuff. It's the same active ingredient.

oh I know that, but if you were to go through a doctor(LIKE EVERYONE SHOULD) you would actually have someone to complain to! There is a reason why this drug is PRESCRIPTION ONLY.

you bought a PRESCRIPTION ONLY drug on your own and now you bash Merck about your problems? hmm...

[chrisis]

oh I know that, but if you were to go through a doctor(LIKE EVERYONE SHOULD) you would actually have someone to complain to! There is a reason why this drug is PRESCRIPTION ONLY.

you bought a PRESCRIPTION ONLY drug on your own and now you bash Merck about your problems? hmm...

Pretty sure most people on this site just say buy it generic, but yeah, go with whatever argument you need to fall back on to suit your cause. I did get a prescription, by the way.

Merck is ultimately responsible for the drug, since it is their patented drug that they tested and put to the FDA. They should have tested it more rigorously, and the warnings were insufficient - thus the recent revisions of labels etc.

Who else should I blame?

[2020]

Pretty sure most people on this site just say buy it generic, but yeah, go with whatever argument you need to fall back on to suit your cause. I did get a prescription, by the way.

Merck is ultimately responsible for the drug, since it is their patented drug that they tested and put to the FDA. They should have tested it more rigorously, and the warnings were insufficient - thus the recent revisions of labels etc.

Who else should I blame?

if you did get a prescription, then why don't you complain about your "experience" with Propecia to your doctor? He's the one who GAVE IT TO YOU! In his mind, you were supposed to be okay.

Am I wrong?

If you decided to take a PRESCRIPTION ONLY drug ON YOUR OWN then YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN!
No one is supposed to take this drug without consulting about it to a real doctor!

[WashedOut]

So if you take claritin and it resolves your issue does that mean you have to keep taking claritin forever? Wish more guys who are suffering would try this out and report results. It could be a big deal.

[chrisis]

Have you even read what doctors have said to sufferers? They don't understand the side effects, they don't want to know and they don't know how to fix it anyway.

Everyone understands your position on this topic 2020, so now kindly butt out. We're making some interesting progress on this subject without people like you sticking their oar in unhelpfully.

[chrisis]

So if you take claritin and it resolves your issue does that mean you have to keep taking claritin forever? Wish more guys who are suffering would try this out and report results. It could be a big deal.

I'd like to know this too. I've been on it for 4-5 days now and wondering if I keep going forever or it has resolved my problem.... Scared to quit now in case I mess up my progress.

[2020]

Have you even read what doctors have said to sufferers? They don't understand the side effects, they don't want to know and they don't know how to fix it anyway.

NOT THE POINT.

Do you not understand why drug prescriptions are in place?? At the very least you would have had someone to blame - your doctor.

Don't blame Merck and don't say that their "percentage of side effects" is wrong because it's not. We just had a 10 page discussion about just that. WARNINGS ARE SUFFICIENT AND ACCURATE.

doctors don't know anything? pfft... do a full panel test. See what's off the charts and start treating it.

Everyone understands your position on this topic 2020, so now kindly butt out.

This isn't position vs position. It's FACTS VS FACTS.
You got nothing. All of your theories are BS as it was proven to be so by me.

We're making some interesting progress on this subject without people like you sticking their oar in unhelpfully.

You're not making any progress. You're wasting precious internet bandwidth from Spencer. This is a circle jerk.

read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo

and then lookup alessandra ambrosio

[chrisis]

Sorry for the interruption everyone. Now back to the actual topic.

[2020]

Sorry for the interruption everyone.

what interruption? were you looking up alessandra ambrosio?

[SoothSayer]

Good to know chrisis, i told you it would take a long time. It seems to me you had low DHT to begin with that's why you had some bad side effects.

It is much too early to tell whether the claritin course has reversed Chrisis' side effects. I truly hope that it is able to help, but it is not helpful to be so presumptuous after half a week of trying a treatment.

[SoothSayer]

Do you not understand why drug prescriptions are in place?? At the very least you would have had someone to blame - your doctor.

Don't blame Merck and don't say that their "percentage of side effects" is wrong because it's not. We just had a 10 page discussion about just that. WARNINGS ARE SUFFICIENT AND ACCURATE.

doctors don't know anything? pfft... do a full panel test. See what's off the charts and start treating it.

These statements are very ignorant. The original drug manufacturer is responsible for informing doctors with accurate information of the safety and efficacy of the drugs that it sells. Recently, the FDA determined that Merck's original label and its subsequent follow-up were not sufficient. The FDA required Merck to let doctors know that persistent sexual dysfunction has been reported. Doctors are responsible to a lesser extent, but the system is unfortunately very imperfect and they get the majority of their information from pharmaceutical companies which are inherently partial institutions.

Secondly - some men with persistent finasteride related problems have unusual hormone profiles and some do not. The men who do have abnormal profiles almost always find the prescribed medications or treatments are not
effective.