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Good to hear you have shown some resilience. Now that an additional 3 days have passed, have you rebounded any more? Obviously, you should be sure to remember this experience and never touch the stuff again. You dodged a bullet, but may not be as lucky next time around. If you look at the Propecia Prescribing Information you will not see a single mention of loss of penile sensitivity.
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This presumptuous post is very rude. The nocebo effect cannot account for sharp decrease in tactile sensation. Sure, it may account for general malaise or complaints of nausea or other non-specific problems, but its not going to do something so specific as to reduce neurologic activity in your penis. People with PFS have been tested to show nerve dysfunction, so it is not shocking to hear this kind of claim. I wonder if he has improved in the given time since he hasn't responded.Comment
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Nor is this study relevant. This experiment shows that the nocebo effect can alter a patients subjective report of a very real painful stimulus. This is very different from the possibility of causing simultaneous inhibition of erectile function and impaired sensation often in combination with the non-subjective and measurable decrease in volume and alteration of consistency in semen.
There is nothing in the medical literature to suggest a nocebo can cause the numbing of sexual sensation and there is evidence to suggest Propecia can cause nerve dysfunction/damage.Comment
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even though this one study was small, it clearly demonstrates the existance of the nocebo effect in the 5ar class of medications. This shows sexual problems like ed and lowering of libido exist at a much higher rate in informed patients versus non informed. Its powerful data even though it was with only 100 or so test subjects.There is nothing in the medical literature to suggest a nocebo can cause the numbing of sexual sensation and there is evidence to suggest Propecia can cause nerve dysfunction/damage.
This was pulled from Dr. Wasserbauer's post a few months back:
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This is untrue. Men naturally feel very uncomfortable talking about sexual dysfunction directly with anybody. If they had been warned of the possible side effects from the drug before taking it, it is much more likely they would be upfront with their doctors about this problem. This factor is not controlled for in the data you presented.Comment
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It's really hard to say if abusername really genuinely got sides, with PropeciaVictim in his head from page 1 all the way to the present page. Basically convincing him in to having sides, or at least making him think about sides a lot.Comment
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You are in serious denial if you think the internet commentary of a single user are likely to cause fake side effects in a patient.
Notice the contrast - many guys have previously written about how scared they were to take the drug but when they decided to give it a chance they were fine. In contrast, his title was "Fin it to win it" and he was hardly concerned about side effects. While an imperfect experiment, he was psychologically much less likely to develop these side effects, when in reality it is a complete crock that thought patterns can even cause said side effects.
He has not yet come back to comment, but given the fact he had loss of sensation and not just your more common ED, I would not be surprised if he was one of the less fortunate long-term sufferers. More than 50% of the guys that experience side effects see a complete reversion after quitting the drug but they generally do not experience loss of sensation which could indicate a more serious problem like nerve damage.
I am really curious to see how things have been turning out for him.Comment
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You were absolutely terrorizing him throughout the whole thread. I'm 100% sure that if you would have never posted here and he would have stayed positive, none of this would have happened. You forced the side effects in his head. I gotta hand it to you though, good job. You and your friends' Propecia smear campaign is working very well.Comment
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The Nocebo effect is very real and the power of suggestion when it comes to sexual function is very powerful. I have been reading the hair forums for the past 12 years and have only recently come across these type of escalating side effects. 10 years ago nobody was complaining about permanent side effects, lack of sensation in their flacid penis, etc, but now it’s common place to read these complaints. Honestly if I read this stuff before taking Propecia I am sure that I would not have had the great experience that I have had over all of these years. People are being psyched into thinking they have permanent side effects only days after they start taking Propecia. This NEVER was posted about before anywhere until these past few years. I believe that their is a lot of bull shit about Propecia being pushed on these forums and I think there is a hidden agenda here. Abusername could have had a chance to keep his hair, but it has been ruined by people like PropeciaVictim, who actually seemed very happy to hear about abusernam thinking he had side effects..
PropeciaVictim has been terrorizing anyone who thinks about taking Propecia, like PatinetlyWating said.Comment
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You are 100% wrong. Your willingness to declare you are 100% certain about anything, let alone a situation where you have close to no facts, highlights your ignorance.
The nocebo effect cannot mimic nerve dysfunction. Also, go back and read his tone. He did not express a single worry about taking the drug, unlike many other guys who timidly accept to try the drug and have no problems. Here is a contradiction you will not be able to reconcile.Comment
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Right-o
sorry about the whole not responding thing, i haven't checked this thread since my last post because i have lots of shit going on it being summer and all. Also because i wanted to keep all this shit totally out of my mind while i'm out on vacation.
It's been like 3 weeks since i've been off the meds, happy to say i can get/maintain/pleasewith my erection just like i did before the medicine.
Honestly, the propecia hasn't been on my mind for the past week at all except for the one rather shitty/scary side effect which is the lack of sensitivity in my penis. I talked to my doctor who said that its common for the sides to last for up to 2 months. Anyways, i'm confident i'll be fixed up and good as new by that time.
Also to propecia victim, **** U your contstant mention of side effects didn't help.. like i said even before he came in i was aware of the sides but seeing them every time i wanted to check out my thread didnt help keeping it off my mind.
But do believe me that i experienced sexual side effects that are taking a little bit to go away sooo of course i'm not saying nobody should try propecia, i encourage people to try it because if i had not tried it then i would have gone my whole life wondering what if.Comment
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Despite your immature imprudence, I still would not wish this fate on you and hope you recover. I really was only trying to let you know of this real risk, since many people are not aware of them when they initially decide to take the drug. You were aware of them supposedly, so to a large extent you are responsible for your fate if you don't recover.
Merck literature (not to be believed) says the average customer with side effects will rebound in 2 weeks and it appears as though it has been a month since you quit Propecia. It is getting to be a little late, but there is still a good chance they will naturally reverse. I hope you get better and please keep us updated in the coming weeks.Comment
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You are right, i'm sorry i overreacted. Honestly i just want this whole thread down but this forum doesn't have an option to delete threads? I've emailed the site as well but no response. I just want to get on with my life and not think about my hair, but that is not really likely.
Who knows, maybe this is all really in my head, I still function 100% normally as i've discovered with much practice :-D. Maybe just not thinking about it for a while will help.Comment
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