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  • funkville
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    Originally posted by sleeme
    Hi Jazz1,
    How long have you been using all these ingredients. I am 27 and just stopped propecia a month ago. I had good results but needed to stop for for blood work and now I don't really want to take it everyday for years and years. I hope you don't mind me asking but at what age did you notice hair loss? I am looking for a good topical but I am concerned that 15% minoxidil is too high of amount to start with. And my doctor said Progesterone will feminize me so now I am concerned about the progesterone. Did you notice that the topical stopped shedding or do you use any oral medications for hair loss. I wonder if topical Finesteride with low dose minoxidil would be good. OR low dose minoxidil with azelaic acid and Tretinoin. If you can, let me know your thoughts.
    Thanks!
    Jazz will give u advise on this but I will give u my experience with progesterone. I have used progesterone from belvravia in 8% with caffeine and Susan's which is natural in different strengths minoxidil. I got no sidea which affect turned melts feminine. I still lean and very athletic. I don't have man boobs. The ingredient I got sides from was fin. I got depressed, Lost a lot of muscle and sexual sides.

    Do your own research. You will find that synthetic and natural progesterone react differently to the body and that synthetic is what has been largely studied.

    Start here:

    The brain is highly responsive to progesterone. In fact, progesterone concentrations in the brain have been shown to be 20 times higher than in the blood.


    Oh I started progesterone at 28

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  • sleeme
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    Help with topical

    Hi Jazz1,
    How long have you been using all these ingredients. I am 27 and just stopped propecia a month ago. I had good results but needed to stop for for blood work and now I don't really want to take it everyday for years and years. I hope you don't mind me asking but at what age did you notice hair loss? I am looking for a good topical but I am concerned that 15% minoxidil is too high of amount to start with. And my doctor said Progesterone will feminize me so now I am concerned about the progesterone. Did you notice that the topical stopped shedding or do you use any oral medications for hair loss. I wonder if topical Finesteride with low dose minoxidil would be good. OR low dose minoxidil with azelaic acid and Tretinoin. If you can, let me know your thoughts.
    Thanks!

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  • sleeme
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    Hi Jazz1,
    How long have you been using all these ingredients. I am 27 and just stopped propecia a month ago. I had good results but needed to stop for for blood work and now I don't really want to take it everyday for years and years. I hope you don't mind me asking but at what age did you notice hair loss? I am looking for a good topical but I am concerned that 15% minoxidil is too high of amount to start with. And my doctor said Progesterone will feminize me so now I am concerned about the progesterone. Did you notice that the topical stopped hair loss or do you use any oral medications for hair loss. I wonder if the Finesteride with low dose minoxidil would be good. OR low dose minoxidil with azelaic acid and tretinoin. If you can let me know your thoughts.
    Thanks!

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  • k9gatton
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    Originally posted by Jazz1
    Any pictures, imagine derma rolling with 30% I reckon that would be awesome regrowth, although a bit risky in regards to side effects.
    That would be crazy, and in a bad way. Would never even think of dermarolling with a thirty percent.

    So, what do you currently get from Susan's pharmacy? What percentage, and what mixture?

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  • k9gatton
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    Originally posted by Jazz1
    Wow, how you finding it? What did you use prior to 30% as that's a big step. Any results or headache etc? Be carefull not to derma roll and apply that straight after!
    The only side effect I got was swelling in my ankles. That was when I put too much on (more than prescribed amount). I put four times that amount on my hair. Wasn't a good choice on my part.

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  • k9gatton
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    Originally posted by Jazz1
    Wow, how you finding it? What did you use prior to 30% as that's a big step. Any results or headache etc? Be carefull not to derma roll and apply that straight after!

    The price is 49.99, for a six month prescription. For the thirty percent, it's 99.00 per month (60 ml tube). If they approve you, you are charged 49.99.

    Susan Mernstein makes it. And she used to make medications for the late Dr. Klein. (The only place you can get it at is Murray Avenue Alcotherapy, located in Pittsburgh PA, US. She owns Murray Avenue Alcotherapy.

    The Progesterone is doing the most work though. Highly recommend it. The thirty percent is growing my hair really fast, which is what I want at this point in my life. As for my own experience, that is when my hair started to grow back. And I'm not a young guy.

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  • k9gatton
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    Just wanted to say I am currently taking thirty percent Minoxidil, mixed with topical Finasteride and Progesterone. Never tried Promax, but I might some day in the future.

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  • Eire1980
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    Originally posted by Jazz1
    Hey John I wish the people I have helped and used her lotions ould post their pictures. Shame as their are a few guys on this thread that don't wish to post!
    HI Jazz,

    thanks for your continued activity on this thread and site in general.
    I am using Susan's lotions but to be honest I see not improvement, actually more thinning of the crown and temples.

    I just bought a dera roller yesterday and going to try that with minox.
    good to hear you are having success.
    any advice on this please?

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  • JohnMPB
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    Still holding my breath waiting for pics...

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  • Transam
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    Originally posted by Jazz1
    Hey in regards to 15% everyone reacts different, I starts with 5%. In regards to Derma rolling keep track of a new thread I'll be creating you will be very interested in regards to regrowth on my method
    double post. sorry

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  • Transam
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    Originally posted by Jazz1
    Hey in regards to 15% everyone reacts different, I starts with 5%. In regards to Derma rolling keep track of a new thread I'll be creating you will be very interested in regards to regrowth on my method
    Hi Jazz, I'm new to this site, but not hairloss forums in general. I noticed how you have experience with different types of Minox...What's your opinion on 'Polaris Labs'? I've heard great things about the brand. I just got my hands on NR10. I'd love to use it, but I don't want to waste my time with Snake Oil.
    My 5% Rogaine Foam isn't working like it used to, when I first tried it back in 2011. I took a long break from it, & DHT absolutely killed my follicles.
    Now I'm on DUT, FIN & Estradiol. Hopefully NR10 with 16% Minox can be the icing on the cake....Sorry to ramble lol

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  • JohnMPB
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    Originally posted by Jazz1
    Hey Kane is legit, I would personally mix RU/CB with stemoxydine. He has sent me some pictures, I will post next couple of days as I need to go through past pictures on my phone.

    Also I have been doing some research and I have something cheap and effective for regrowth. Keep track of a new thread i will be creating to test my new method on my cousins friend.
    Looking forward to the pics

    What ever happened to mark? He used to sing praises for all kinds of treatments like ru and proxiphen then he just disappeared.

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  • cardib
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    i agree with James. I have used 12% and 15% minox from Murray Ave Pharmacy since March 2014, and in my opinion a higher strength minoxidil does not make a difference. I will not longer be continuing the higher strength after the bottle is over over as its quite expensive, and thee was really no results from it.

    I use to be a stellar responder to 5% minox back in 2009-2012, but as I got older I found that the minox was losing effect as I assume the DHT levels in my scalp rose with age. Despite going on Fin, and using 5%, and up to 15% min, I was never able to get the great regrowth i saw originally on fin. I thought the higher percent minox would do the trick, but after 5% i do not think it is dose dependent. and all the other additives such as AA, progesterone are just a waste of time in my opinion as well.

    so my advice to those who are considering using Murray ave or Susans formula, if your new to minox try a generic 5% first, and if you dont respond to that, then its kind of a dead end. and if your already on min with no results, then its kind of dead end there. maybe looks into experimental, but i wouldn't suggest trying a higher percent fin as i have.

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  • cardib
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    why do you say 5 % with derma rolling is the way to go? did you get regrowth and thickening? can you further expand
    Originally posted by jamesst11
    I am starting to think, at least in my personal case and from others i've heard from, that high percentage minox may be a bad idea. I don't know if it's the retinol, azeliac acid, or what not... but damn did I have a weird reaction to that stuff. I am not trying to scare anyone, rather depict my situation. My resting heart rate, at night was like 85-90. it's normally 50. I have been off it for just a week, and it has dropped back down to normal levels. Also, the shedding was out of control!! I am done with both higher percentage and specially compounded minoxidil. 5% with dermarolling is the way to go.

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  • jamesst11
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    I am starting to think, at least in my personal case and from others i've heard from, that high percentage minox may be a bad idea. I don't know if it's the retinol, azeliac acid, or what not... but damn did I have a weird reaction to that stuff. I am not trying to scare anyone, rather depict my situation. My resting heart rate, at night was like 85-90. it's normally 50. I have been off it for just a week, and it has dropped back down to normal levels. Also, the shedding was out of control!! I am done with both higher percentage and specially compounded minoxidil. 5% with dermarolling is the way to go.

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