Biothera Clinics

[mehairless]

sorry for the late response guys. i thought i lost my password and got too lazy. SO, i went for my 6 month to see any growth. it seemed kind of like it was growing but it mite have been my mind playing tricks on me. i think im just gonna ride it through and waste my time for the rest of the six months and see if it actually works. im just not gonna use the drops they give me, let alone everday.

im now using a combination of avodart and laser hair treatment. (there were a lot of ppl today at biothera clinics). I have missed a couple weeks since my 6 month.

Did you mean you missed a couple of weeks of your Biothera treatment? If you did, you can kiss your money back guarantee goodbye. I heard it's not something they tell you, but if you miss EVEN ONE OF YOUR APPOINTMENTS they'll use that against you.

[BradPiff]

if they use that against me, they can kiss my ass. i will get my money back someway if it doesn't work. it just pisses me off how they attack the most vulnerable.

[cphan]

Did you experience any sort of initial shredding from Avodart?
I'm reaching close to 1 year on Proscar so I might ask about it. Problem with Proscar is it has slowed down my hair loss but I'm not really experience hair regrowth which is what I like too.

[BradPiff]

i dont think i shed because i shaved my head. but i have a feeling its working. im goin to report back in 6 months. i recommend scheduling a consultation with dr hassan or wong since u live in vancouver. and they are very friendly and guide you on what to do!

[cphan]

LOL. You just read my mind. I was planning on going for a consultation with them this spring for a possible hair transplant as a last resort.

Proscar has a high rate of slowing down hair loss but a lower rate of hair regrowth. I'm at the point where I need to figure out what to do with the areas where I'm very thin in hair still. Rogaine seem like the only other options but I hate putting stuff on my hair since I still like to use hairspray and gel on my hair.

I don't have any side effects of Proscar at all and this Avodart seem more like an extra strength version of Proscar. Unless Avodart can help regrow hair much better than Proscar, I think I'll stick to Proscar for the pill to slow down hair loss.

[crpl_hicks]

Biothera is a SCAM!

Hey everyone,

Instead of boring you with all the details in a nutshell, Biothera, @ least in Edmonton is a SCAM. Of course they promise you @ the inital meeting that you will get great results, but in the end what they think is positive & what you will say is positive are not the same.

DO NOT fall for it!!!! Believe all the negative stuff you read. I filed for a refund and surprise I didn't get it. In fact the letter they sent was almost accussing me of "how dare you ask for a refund" you signed the contract, you agreed to it...blah blah blah.

If anything positive can come out of my experience, it's that I can persuade you NOT to do it! there is no guarantee, except that you will be dissapointed!

Please DO NOT sign up!

[crpl_hicks]

Forgot to mention Biothera is

a low light laser regrowth "treatment" plan where you use "special" topical lotion, shampoo, go for weekly 20min laser sessions and use a hand held laser comb, all over the period of 1 year.

Like I said.....it's a scam, especially how they treat you after there are little or no results. They make it out that it's your fault it didn't work as well as they initially say, and then show some photos to prove you have growth. Any picture from different angles @ different times will show different things.

It all sound "scientifically" possible, but in the end it's a waist of your money.

AVOID BIOTHERA or any clinic promoting hair growth with lasers!!

[JasonWildon]

My younger brother and my self have attended Biothera Clinics in Vancouver for about 7 months now. Yes its true some clients have a guarantee, when the lady took a look at my head she said I was not a good candidate and would not be able to give me a guarantee. My brother on the other hand who is 8 years younger was a good candidate so he did get a guarantee. From what his guarantee states is that it is conditional, where you have to attend at least 48 times in the 1 year program. That makes sense, you have to use the laser to get results. Both of us did sign up to the program. At the 3 month photos my brother was starting to see quick response where his crown was starting to fill in along with his front hairline coming down, unfortunately for me i had not seen any difference yet. They did show me with a scope that there were some new hairs ( looked like a peach fuzz) starting to grow in the fringes of my crown and where it was completely gone before i started, and my existing hair on the top of my head getting a lot thicker giving me more coverage. Since then I have seen a lot of new growth all over my scalp( except the center of my crown where there hasn't been a hair there in 5 years) I know I am never going to get full coverage but I am overall satisfied so far with how the program has been. My brothers results have been much better his crown was filled in by the 6 months and is now just waiting for the front temples to come back, and our family notices it gradually coming back. I know the exact lasers they use at the clinic are the revage 670 if that helps anyone. I think when I am done the program I will go to Hassan And Wong to get some transplants to fill in the center of my crown where the laser will not fill in as to get results its my understanding that you need to have some hair left for it to help. So if your completely bald i would stay clear of any laser treatment and go straight for transplants.

[crpl_hicks]

Biothera false results

I would tend to disagree with the previous post, that seems to say that Biothera Clinics are "honourable". The problem I have with them is that they show you photos after the treatment & say, yup we think there is significant hair density improvement, and they use photos from different angles to prove their point. If you take 2 pictures from different angles on the same day you could make it look like you have more hair.

I definately recall the "consultant" saying that the contract is a "formality", you will see positive results and we base it on "cosmetic" aspects, on how the client feels/see when they look in the mirror. I also have before pictures & trust me if there was even the slightest hint of significant growth I wouldn't complain. But to have them say, we think there is increased density & our refund is based on a all or nothing mentality and oh yeah that conversation we had at the start about improvement, well too bad WE say there is.

Bottom line, I'll bet there are more of us that got screwed than those who see positive results. I'll bet that if there was a site where people just voted on if they were happy or not, over whelmingly there would be more dissatisfied people.

[crpl_hicks]

Biothera laser light claims

Also keep in mind, when companies say that the laser comb is FDA approved...read exactly what the FDA approved...I believe they have approved it is "safe" to use. They have not given it a rubber stamp of apporval that it WILL grow hair!

Just that it is safe to use...big difference & one these companies neglect to mention. It is NOT FDA approved to grow hair.

[Laserhead]

There are no FDA approved lasers, lasers are FDA cleared and non of the laser hair dryers are FDA cleared so they are lying!. I was scammed too . JasonWildon’s post looks shillish to me anyway.
Did any of you see this? http://www.thebaldtruth.com/uncatego...wth-institute/
I hope the government goes after all of these clinics!

[Phatalis]

There are no FDA approved lasers, lasers are FDA cleared and non of the laser hair dryers are FDA cleared so they are lying!. I was scammed too . JasonWildon’s post looks shillish to me anyway.
Did any of you see this? http://www.thebaldtruth.com/uncatego...wth-institute/
I hope the government goes after all of these clinics!

Yeah, if you look at a lot of Jason Wildons posts... they all seem to advocate Laser therapy.. and in any thread relating to some other treatment it almost seems as if he's putting that treatment down..

I don't know what to make of it. Maybe he's legit, who knows.

[blowmeup]

JW=Shill!

[JasonWildon]

Haha sorry if i was promoting it a little to much, was having a few drinks. All i was trying to say was that for my brother and I it has worked. I wish I could get more response as laser is by no means a miracle cure. But in my opinion it is the best program I have every tried and probably the best out there for response that is non surgical. In the past I tried propecia ( didnt do much over 6 months, maybe slowed it down was hard to tell) Rogain 9-12 months (saw a few peach fuzz hairs come up, but seemed to put a hold on the loss) and a 6 month treatment at a clinic that used topical/shampoo/and a galvanic current (electricity to get the blood flow back the the scalp, wasnt that fun, saw again only a few peach fuzz hairs come up, was better than the Rogain thou).

As per the talk on different angles for photos, of course if you use a different camera have different lighting different angles it will show different response. But for me when i do a photo comparison they show me digital photos and one done with a scope that zooms in maybe 50-100 times to see the growth that way. Do they do that in Edmonton cpl_hicks? And did you attend the clinic as they told you?

Also all lasers are just approved from the fda for safety, the only one that was cleared by the fda was the old hair max, they did a study with 300 people that used it for 6 months 2-3 times a week and average response was a 46% increase. So if you had 10 hairs in an area you would know have 14-15. Not a huge increase but better than nothing. I am happy with my program as i have more now then when i started, i know it wont fill in all the way but its better than doing nothing and let it completely fall out.

Of course i'm going to say good things about laser if I got results. But i have also said bad things about it as well. Its slow, time consuming and I wont get full coverage. You have to be committed to do it.

Im not saying everyone should use a laser, research everything out there and make your own call.

Dont let me or laserhead ( who is on a mission to make lasers seem like they do jack) influence you to much, make your own call, go to different places see whats out there.

[crpl_hicks]

I did everything that was expected as per their "contract". They showed me close up with the scope & whenever I said I don't really see much improvement they would point out some fine hairs & say, "see there is some new growth". Ultimately they rejected my appeal for a reimbursment saying that I had increased hair density, yet when I mentioned @ the end of my sessions that I wasn't happy they offered me 6 more months, I assume free. But if I had improvement like they said and they rejected my wanting my money back because of this, why would they offer me 6 more months?

Did I mention that they offered me the 6 more months after I said I wasn't happy with the results?

Oh yeah & they also said because I didn't use 1 month of "rejuvination" product I voided the gaurantee! Whether it works or not, they company has questionable practices, they have set themselves up to always win, they can use their "contract" to justify success when there is none.

They tell you during the consultation that you are a great candidate, yet in the end they screw you over with the contract when you get no results. They don't even offer you a portion back. It's all or nothing & in Biothera's case you get nothing.