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  • burtandernie
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 1568

    #16
    A lot of people on propecia report that they still lose a little ground over the years at the hair line still. I am borderline getting a mature hairline so I dont think its worth the danger of propecia especially if it somehow speeds it up or a bad shed doesnt come back is too much risk for me
    If we had something that worked to prevent mature hairline or any hair loss that was safe I would certainly do it. Im not convinced on the safety of RU not going systemic, and fin is a personal choice. I might, but i prefer to not to

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    • Notcoolanymore
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 2260

      #17
      Originally posted by VictimOfDHT
      To those who are taking Fin, are you taking 1/4 pill every other day or are there people who are taking it every day? I still don't think Fin is doing much for me after all these years and I'm thinking to up the dose but I'd like to know if others have tried that.
      I take 1/4(1.25mg finasteride) pill/day. Even if you are microdosing, IMO taking it daily is the way to go.

      To answer beetee's question, the severity of the shed vary's from person to person. I think everybody taking fin goes through some sort of a shed. Shedding usually occurs on the weaker hair. So if you have a ton of weak/thinning hair on your head then I would expect a pretty bad shed. Also another thing to consider is if you have a good head of hair, you could most likely conceal a shed with the rest of your hair, or maybe barely notice it. If you don't have much hair on your head like I do, then most likely a shed will be more apparent.

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      • VictimOfDHT
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 748

        #18
        Thanks for the reply, notcoolanymore. I think I'm going to do the same thing for a while and see what happens.

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        • cichlidfort
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 262

          #19
          Originally posted by LMS
          And I'm talking fin, dut or Ru you don' t deserve hair loss (no one does) but god damn you're pretty much asking for it.

          You're delusional if you're waiting for some next gen treatment that will likely never come.
          Not all of us are as desperate and insecure to the point where we would take that dick poison and screw with our male androgens that make us a male. Let me know how puffy nipples and lack of libido works out for you. I'll patiently wait.

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          • fred970
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 924

            #20
            cichlidfort's reply is brutal but quite faire.

            OP basically attacks us by saying "if you don't mess up with your hormones, then you deserve to be bald!"

            I've had my gyno surgery already, thank you.

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            • cichlidfort
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 262

              #21
              Originally posted by fred970
              cichlidfort's reply is brutal but quite faire.

              OP basically attacks us by saying "if you don't mess up with your hormones, then you deserve to be bald!"

              I've had my gyno surgery already, thank you.
              Exactly. Hair is just an aesthetic trait. Why play chance and screw with your health?

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              • burtandernie
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 1568

                #22
                There are reasons why a lot of doctors would advise against propecia like push you towards rogain even when its clear propecia is the best and only option at the moment. Taking an internal drug is a dangerous game to play especially when your talking about long term. I love my hair as much as anyone but Im not playing that game with my health way too many things we dont yet understand

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                • Notcoolanymore
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 2260

                  #23
                  I respect that there are many that don't want to take finasteride for a variety of reasons. Where is the respect for the guys that choose to do something to stop their hair loss? It is easy to call people that take fin "desperate and insecure" when you are an early norwood and still look half way decent. I thought this was a support forum, not a place where we make people second guess their hair loss treatment decision.

                  For the guys that have taken fin and had to stop due to sides, I respect your decision. It was the smart thing to do.

                  As far as the "dick poison" comment. I was afraid of fin and thought of it the same way. I eventually came to the realization that what was the point of saving my dick if I didn't have any balls?

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                  • huawei
                    Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 85

                    #24
                    Originally posted by TwoInchCircle
                    Tomorrow's the Cosmo presentation. I'm hoping that there's a chance they'll give us a vehicle. If they don't, I'm hopping on RU+Minox. I'm convinced CB is what's gonna save me, but unless we get a working vehicle soon, I gotta go with what we have now.

                    It's a sad state of affairs, this whole industry. I will admit that the future looks bright, but I'm still disappointed in where we all are now. The fact that RU was shelved years ago and CB for acne gets precedence are ridiculous.
                    The presentation is up now...I'm pretty positive about it even though there is one dedicated slide. Preclinical and phase 1 have been good enough to for them to move to phase 2. The most exciting part is that it has been demonstrability shown that <1&#37; of the drug makes it into the blood stream which is good news for everyone out there who can't handle systemic dht reduction.

                    Phase II will have three groups (drug, placebo, comparator) and run for 6 months with a follow up ending in H1 2015.

                    To me a topical anti-androgen represents the final point of development for anti-androgen therapy used to treat mbp and will act as a shield to protect hair until something better comes along.

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                    • robodoc
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 200

                      #25
                      Originally posted by rdawg
                      agreed, I'm just waiting for the right vehicle for CB and ill be adding that on top of Fin+Min that I already use. I have very aggressive hairloss, so fin only maintains really.
                      If CB does not dissolve in alcohol. a polar solvent then perhaps a non polar solvent is the key. Search for a non polar solvent and try one.

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                      • robodoc
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 200

                        #26
                        Originally posted by VictimOfDHT
                        To those who are taking Fin, are you taking 1/4 pill every other day or are there people who are taking it every day? I still don't think Fin is doing much for me after all these years and I'm thinking to up the dose but I'd like to know if others have tried that.
                        When Fin came around I tried. I tried a quarter tab but not much luck. I got crazy and tried 10mg/day. My hair was growing in big time, no fall out, I felt like a rock star but my balls started aching and shrinking, and I thought, hmm, maybe not a good idea. I tooke fin 2.5MG/day and it stopped hair loss for about 8 months then it seemed to quit working. I think lower doses will slow the rate of loss but hardly is the panacea we are looking for. I am continue low dose Fin and added RU and Nizoral shampoo. Too early to tell but seems to be slowing down loss.

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                        • LMS
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 226

                          #27
                          Originally posted by cichlidfort
                          Not all of us are as desperate and insecure to the point where we would take that dick poison and screw with our male androgens that make us a male. Let me know how puffy nipples and lack of libido works out for you. I'll patiently wait.
                          Strong reading comprehension.

                          Whatever bro, bottom line is bitches can't run their fingers through your confidence.

                          I'll take my chances.

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                          • HairBane
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 300

                            #28
                            Originally posted by cichlidfort
                            Not all of us are as desperate and insecure to the point where we would take that dick poison and screw with our male androgens that make us a male. Let me know how puffy nipples and lack of libido works out for you. I'll patiently wait.
                            >posts 112 times on a hair loss forum
                            >"who cares about hair? u r all insecure phags lol"

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                            • cichlidfort
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 262

                              #29
                              Originally posted by HairBane
                              >posts 112 times on a hair loss forum
                              >"who cares about hair? u r all insecure phags lol"
                              Not sure what you're implying about my amount of posts. That's meaningless. Not insecure at all buddy. Nice try though.

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                              • cichlidfort
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 262

                                #30
                                Originally posted by LMS
                                Strong reading comprehension.

                                Whatever bro, bottom line is bitches can't run their fingers through your confidence.

                                I'll take my chances.
                                I do have strong reading comprehension. Also, take into fact that this is a hairloss forum.

                                Hair isn't a manifestion of confidence, bro. Take your chances. You sure are gambling with important physiology.

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