With HST, why can't you cover the whole head?

[Arashi]

honestly... those pics you sent arashi.. I think that dude looks better that way even if it does look odd. If he could shave it down a tiny bit more (which you could do with ah hst)

I think it looks a lot less "unnatural" than a ****ing horse-shoe head. That has the be the ugliest shit of all. How goddamn unnatural is it to have a horse shoe head.

**** all that noise.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, for sure. I think a Nw6-7 with 1-2 mm trimmed hair looks better than this guy, especially if you have a 'good' face for it (mostly defined by chin & nose). And if you dont, then I'd rather spend money on that, than on a zillion procedures.

But again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[Arashi]

yeah sorry, i went on that blog and looked at those pics and I still think that guy looks a metric ****-ton better than this

Haha, yeah a horseshoe with such long hair looks ridculous. He should trim it.

[Phatalis]

I'm just praying to god that I don't go beyond what I am now. So I don't have to get into that NW5+ situation.

I'm like a NW2.5-3... but hopefully its all frontal loss.. and I'm getting HST in August.. so I hope I can cover that up and avoid all this entirely. And keep enough for CB (for some reason I believe CB is gonna be a hit)

[Phatalis]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, for sure. I think a Nw6-7 with 1-2 mm trimmed hair looks better than this guy, especially if you have a 'good' face for it (mostly defined by chin & nose). And if you dont, then I'd rather spend money on that, than on a zillion procedures.

But again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

truth

[Arashi]

Sorry, but WHAT PART EXACTLY of this question ...

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=126567&postcount=77

... don't you understand??

11k grafts with Gho, at 80% regen, would mean he'd lose only 2200 in donor, which would look good. Certainly no 'old broom'.

[534623]

11k grafts with Gho, at 80% regen, would mean he'd lose only 2200 in donor, which would look good. Certainly no 'old broom'.

Yeah, and?

Try to find photos of "donor areas versus donor areas" - and you will (eventually) also know what's possible and what's not - and in which case.

[Phatalis]

i still think if you can get enough hair on top to get an "old broom" and just wear it short you're good to go. I mean.. buzzed short. just for that shadow look.


I don't get why people get an HT and grow it out long and make it obviously look like shit... when it'd look a lot better shorter.

[Arashi]

Yeah, and?

Try to find photos of "donor areas versus donor areas" - and you will (eventually) also know what's possible and what's not - and in which case.

Sometimes I can't follow you IM, might be me though I really don't know what you're saying here. Are you saying that an average donor can't lose 2k grafts without having too much (optical) thinning impact ?

[Arashi]

I don't get why people get an HT and grow it out long and make it obviously look like shit... when it'd look a lot better shorter.

Hehe, +1 for this.

[534623]

Sometimes I can't follow you IM, might be me though I really don't know what you're saying here. Are you saying that an average donor can't lose 2k grafts without having too much (optical) thinning impact ?

Here ...


... try to harvest 12,000 grafts.

And what part exactly of this (post), don't you understand??
Or what part of "donor area versus donor area" don't you understand??

Let me and others know ...

[Arashi]

Here ...


... try to harvest 12,000 grafts.

And what part exactly of this (post), don't you understand??

Let me and others know ...

That's not an average donor by far.

[534623]

That's not an average donor by far.

Exactly. Because it's a very large donor area with >100 grafts per 1/cm².

Sarcasm off ...

[Arashi]

Exactly. Because it's a very large donor area with >100 grafts per 1/cm².

Sarcasm off ...

IM, if your point is that quite a few donors can't handle a loss of 2000 grafts without visible thinning, yes, you're absolutely right. But on the other hand, the average donor for a 30-40 year old should be able to handle that without causing too much of a negative effect. At least that's my opinion, but to be honest, it's of course just an estimate and I have no real data to back it up of course However I've seen tons of FUE results where donor still looked great after losing 2k grafts. Hence that would mean that, at 80% regeneration, a lot of people should be able to get 10k grafts with HST without a lot of visible thinning in donor. We haven't seen 1 single photo of this though. That to me is suspicious.

[534623]

IM, if your point is that quite a few donors can't handle a loss of 2000 grafts without visible thinning, yes, you're absolutely right. But on the other hand, the average donor for a 30-40 year old should be able to handle that without causing too much of a negative effect.

And? Are YOU one of them?

If so - what's your problem? Every single HST patient WILL notice himself, whether or not he is able to do another and another and another HST procedure after his 1st, his 2nd, his 3rd etc HST procedure.

Maybe the game is over in my own donor area after 4 or 5 HST procedures, but maybe YOUR donor area is still good enough for a 6th, or 7th or 8th HST procedure - I don't know.
That means, everybody will know this himself, when the game is over in his donor area. Every donor area has a different size, diffent amount of grafts etc etc and maybe not every HST procedure is as successful than the other, even for the same patient.

But one thing is absolutely certain:
Dean Saunders, for example, while still being able to shave his head down to the bone - Dr. Gho didn't buy all his brand new hairs in the supermarket, for DS's former slick bald head.

[JJJJrS]

You would expect with 80% donor regeneration, like HASCI claims, that there would be at least some cases presented that go above and beyond what can be achieved with traditional hair transplants. That's definitely true for the donor, where we have already established that the scarring is absolutely minimal. But on the recipient side, that's simply not the case.

Someone like Dean Saunders, for example, with all the money and time, will still have an unnatural hairline that is far too high to frame his face after 5k grafts! His first two procedures produced minimal cosmetic improvement and they've already decided to stop after only 3 procedures. How can anyone call this a good investment or even close to a solution for hairloss?

There are clear limitations to the procedure, no matter how hard HASCI tries to hide behind their marketing and avoiding the key issues.