With HST, why can't you cover the whole head?

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  • Arashi
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 3888

    #16
    Originally posted by garethbale
    Yeah but apparently Gho has been doing this since 2005 (I think) with over 3000 procedures. Surely there is ONE that would be happy for their result to be published (from a NW6/7 back to a full head).

    Seems odd...
    Agreed that it seems odd that the max we've seen is 5k grafts.

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    • 534623
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1854

      #17
      Originally posted by garethbale
      Yeah but apparently Gho has been doing this since 2005 (I think) with over 3000 procedures. Surely there is ONE that would be happy for their result to be published (from a NW6/7 back to a full head).

      Seems odd...
      Odd? Not at all ...

      In fact, and according to the Kobren/Gho interview around 1 year ago, Dr. Gho reported around 5000 clients - again, around 1 year ago.

      HOW MANY of them reported their cases on hair loss forums??
      Not even 1% of them!

      There are around >1000 hair transplant doctors around the globe. How many brand new HT cases in general could you find THIS WEEK on hair loss forums??

      Yeah, I know - math is not so easy ...

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      • garethbale
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 603

        #18
        Originally posted by 534623
        Odd? Not at all ...

        In fact, and according to the Kobren/Gho interview around 1 year ago, Dr. Gho reported around 5000 clients - again, around 1 year ago.

        HOW MANY of them reported their cases on hair loss forums??
        Not even 1% of them!

        There are around >1000 hair transplant doctors around the globe. How many brand new HT cases in general could you find THIS WEEK on hair loss forums??

        Yeah, I know - math is not so easy ...
        The fact that less than 1% reported their cases is totally irrelevant. Less than 1% are probably aware of hair loss forums or are members of hair loss forums.

        My point was that verifiable documentation should come from HASCI themselves, patients are not expected to convince the rest of the hair loss community. If you look on HASCI's site, all their cosmetic results photos are results that could be achieved with a traditional HT (donor scarring notwithstanding)

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        • Arashi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3888

          #19
          Originally posted by 534623
          Odd? Not at all ...

          In fact, and according to the Kobren/Gho interview around 1 year ago, Dr. Gho reported around 5000 clients - again, around 1 year ago.

          HOW MANY of them reported their cases on hair loss forums??
          Not even 1% of them!

          There are around >1000 hair transplant doctors around the globe. How many brand new HT cases in general could you find THIS WEEK on hair loss forums??

          Yeah, I know - math is not so easy ...
          Thing is that IF donor regeneration would really be 80%, then what better way to prove it as to show a patient who gained 10k grafts in recipient by only sacrificing 2k in donor ? The mere fact that Gho hasn't produced even just 1 such a photo is quite suspicious.

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          • garethbale
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 603

            #20
            Originally posted by Arashi
            Thing is that IF donor regeneration would really be 80%, then what better way to prove it as to show a patient who gained 10k grafts in recipient by only sacrificing 2k in donor ? The mere fact that Gho hasn't produced even just 1 such a photo is quite suspicious.
            This

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            • 534623
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1854

              #21
              Originally posted by garethbale

              The fact that less than 1% reported their cases is totally irrelevant. Less than 1% are probably aware of hair loss forum or are members of hair loss forums.
              Yeah - and?

              Suddenly it's "totally irrelevant"...instead of "being odd" ...

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              • garethbale
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 603

                #22
                Originally posted by 534623
                Yeah - and?

                Suddenly it's "totally irrelevant"...instead of "being odd" ...
                What does that even mean?!

                I said YOUR point was irrelevant, and HASCI'S secrecy was odd.

                What's hard to understand about that???!!!

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                • 534623
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1854

                  #23
                  Originally posted by garethbale
                  What does that even mean?!

                  I said YOUR point was irrelevant, and HASCI'S secrecy was odd.

                  What's hard to understand about that???!!!
                  Let me and others look ...

                  Originally posted by garethbale

                  Yeah but apparently Gho has been doing this since 2005 (I think) with over 3000 procedures. Surely there is ONE that would be happy for their result to be published (from a NW6/7 back to a full head).

                  Seems odd...
                  So when Dr. Gho reported just ONE case with around 13,000 HST grafts, it "seems odd" that unfortunately THIS ONE is one of the other 99% of all cases, who do not post on hair loss forums??

                  Your thinking is odd - that's everything what's "odd" here.

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                  • garethbale
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 603

                    #24
                    That makes no sense. I welcome anyone else to make sense of that...

                    You really are weird

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                    • Arashi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 3888

                      #25
                      Originally posted by 534623
                      Let me and others look ...



                      So when Dr. Gho reported just ONE case with around 13,000 HST grafts, it "seems odd" that unfortunately THIS ONE is one of the other 99% of all cases, who do not post on hair loss forums??

                      Your thinking is odd - that's everything what's "odd" here.
                      But come on IM. There are quite a few celebs in the Netherlands who could use more than 5k grafts and surely have enough money. But none has gotten that so far. Like for example Gerard Joling, he definitely could use more. Or Dean Saunders. To me it's just odd that they don't get more.

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                      • cocacola
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 222

                        #26
                        People like jolling or saunders are not good examples. Jolling is a tv star, yes for sure he could get more procedures, but he would need to spend time shaved for few months each year. Maybe he cant afford to apear shaved on tv shows too often.

                        Saunders had this image of shaved/bald guy for years. Thats the image of him that his fans see on the mysic cd case they have. You cant just have this transformation all of the sudden. Its just marketing. Thats why he only went for a hairline. Keep the same image, but with a better frame.

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                        • Phatalis
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 263

                          #27
                          honestly... those pics you sent arashi.. I think that dude looks better that way even if it does look odd. If he could shave it down a tiny bit more (which you could do with ah hst)

                          I think it looks a lot less "unnatural" than a ****ing horse-shoe head. That has the be the ugliest shit of all. How goddamn unnatural is it to have a horse shoe head.

                          **** all that noise.

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                          • Arashi
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 3888

                            #28
                            Originally posted by cocacola
                            People like jolling or saunders are not good examples. Jolling is a tv star, yes for sure he could get more procedures, but he would need to spend time shaved for few months each year. Maybe he cant afford to apear shaved on tv shows too often.

                            Saunders had this image of shaved/bald guy for years. Thats the image of him that his fans see on the mysic cd case they have. You cant just have this transformation all of the sudden. Its just marketing. Thats why he only went for a hairline. Keep the same image, but with a better frame.
                            Could be, could be not. But regardless, Gho has thousands of patients, surely some must have more than 5k grafts and must be willing to show their results online (if not for free, then surely against free surgery). I find it very weird/suspicious we haven't seen even 1 photo of somebody who got more than 5000 grafts.

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                            • Phatalis
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 263

                              #29
                              yeah sorry, i went on that blog and looked at those pics and I still think that guy looks a metric ****-ton better than this

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                              • 534623
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 1854

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Arashi
                                But come on IM. There are quite a few celebs in the Netherlands who could use more than 5k grafts and surely have enough money. But none has gotten that so far. Like for example Gerard Joling, he definitely could use more. Or Dean Saunders. To me it's just odd that they don't get more.
                                Sorry, but WHAT PART EXACTLY of this question ...

                                Gaz. Just wondering how your progress is going? How is your hair looking after your 3rd procedure? Are you going back this year?


                                ... don't you understand??

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