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  • Aames
    Inactive
    • Nov 2012
    • 626

    #16
    Originally posted by Widowmaker
    I started on Dut a bit before January 1. Prior to that I was on Fin 1mg everyday for around 2 years. I clipper my hair pretty short so I am not sure if I shed or not. It seems I would go through periods of seeing more scalp, and periods of satisfaction. That could just as well be attributed to psychological factors. I am pretty sure Fin was just retaining what I had, but part of me would have liked to see a shed...from what I've seen, most people who see gains experience a shed.

    Anyway, back to the Dut...I think I've had a rather minimal diffuse shed. I see a bit more scalp, but it's not really noticable. I have also noticed a lot more faint baby/vellus(?) hairs sprout up along my recessed temple hairline. They aren't very noticable except up close. Sorta reminds me of a hair graveyard. I'm hopeful, but not convinced they will thicken up. Didn't have sides on Fin and haven't noticed any on Dut. I get my Dutas from InHouse. I'll probably stay on Dut to see how it goes and if I see no gains I may go back to Fin. I figure Fin was holding ground and it should be widely available as a generic (and a lot less $) by then.
    My dutas from inhouse is in the post. I'll be taking it and fin at the same time until I run out of fin. I'm also hoping for temple regrowth.

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    • 25 going on 65
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 1476

      #17
      Still practically no shedding on most days, except a few since I have started where there was minor shedding. When I used my keto shampoo the other day I noticed closer to the normal amount of hairs coming onto my hands in the shower. Most days though I can hang my head and vigorously rub my scalp and see 0, 1 or 2 hairs on the bathroom floor. Same when I wash my hair (other than keto days)
      I assumed using dut+fin together would not be more effective than using just dut, I was just doing it for a transition period. Now I am getting a little nervous that when I drop fin I will start shedding more. I wonder what my actual DHT levels are vs what they will be when I quit fin. Maybe should get a blood test....

      But it is still so early in the process that I probably am just overthinking things.

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      • dex89
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 808

        #18
        I'll be monitoring your thread, very curious how DUT works for you. I've been on Fin for 1 year and 5 months but I see no regrowth around the temple area that is thinning. I haven't shed like I used to but still worry that my hairline is receding to It's "mature hairline" slowly. I might make the switch soon, not sure if I should for 2 year mark.

        I saw this really interesting link, I don't know if anyone has seen this. I posted it yesterday on another thread.

        How does Dutasteride help with hair loss? Is it more effective than Finasteride? What are the side effects? Ask The Experts

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        • drybone
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 867

          #19
          Hey dex

          Have you seen regrowth in the crown or top of your head with the fin?

          Is it just the temples where there is no regrowth?

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          • dex89
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 808

            #20
            Originally posted by drybone
            Hey dex

            Have you seen regrowth in the crown or top of your head with the fin?

            Is it just the temples where there is no regrowth?
            I'm not loosing hair on the crown or top, It's more of a receding issue and a minor diffuse right temple. The temple is a no regrowth, the corner of my temples are thinning. Fin does work but it probably would not regrow hair around the hairline area like DUT would.

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            • baldozer
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 752

              #21
              Originally posted by dex89
              I'm not loosing hair on the crown or top, It's more of a receding issue and a minor diffuse right temple. The temple is a no regrowth, the corner of my temples are thinning. Fin does work but it probably would not regrow hair around the hairline area like DUT would.
              I have seen your pictures. You have almost no hair loss. You should really not be using dangerous drugs like finasteride for such negligible hair loss.

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              • Aames
                Inactive
                • Nov 2012
                • 626

                #22
                Check this post out: http://www.****************/interact...read.php/48633

                This is what inspired me to get on dut. Really hoping it works as well as it did for him. Just got it today, not sure when I'll start it.

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                • drybone
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 867

                  #23
                  Originally posted by dex89
                  I'm not loosing hair on the crown or top, It's more of a receding issue and a minor diffuse right temple. The temple is a no regrowth, the corner of my temples are thinning. Fin does work but it probably would not regrow hair around the hairline area like DUT would.
                  Wow. No wonder you have little hair loss. The fin is definitely working for you. Good job.

                  You say DUT actually regrows burnt out follicles at the temple area? What exactly is DUT ?

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                  • Aames
                    Inactive
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 626

                    #24
                    Originally posted by drybone
                    Wow. No wonder you have little hair loss. The fin is definitely working for you. Good job.

                    You say DUT actually regrows burnt out follicles at the temple area? What exactly is DUT ?
                    DUT=Dutasteride (Avodart)

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                    • drybone
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 867

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Aames
                      DUT=Dutasteride (Avodart)
                      thanks. Ive been doing some reading on it and it appears to be some pretty heavy duty stuff.

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                      • Aames
                        Inactive
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 626

                        #26
                        Originally posted by drybone
                        thanks. Ive been doing some reading on it and it appears to be some pretty heavy duty stuff.
                        I guess so. If you look at the studies though, the incidences of side effects aren't all that different from fin.

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                        • chrisis
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1257

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Aames
                          I guess so. If you look at the studies though, the incidences of side effects aren't all that different from fin.
                          Makes you wonder if the data is reliable....

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                          • Aames
                            Inactive
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 626

                            #28
                            Originally posted by chrisis
                            Makes you wonder if the data is reliable....
                            Chrisis, while I really feel for you, I'm far more inclined to believe the results found by actual scientists than a band of anonymous faces on the internet that say fin/dut gave them persistent sides.

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                            • chrisis
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 1257

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Aames
                              Chrisis, while I really feel for you, I'm far more inclined to believe the results found by actual scientists than a band of anonymous faces on the internet that say fin/dut gave them persistent sides.
                              I'm more inclined to believe people who don't have any financial incentive to lie and present biased information. I know because of my personal experience that there are very really dangers - you're taking drugs that interfere with hormone interactions which nobody fully understands - not even "actual scientists".

                              "Drugs are tested by the people who manufacture them, in poorly designed trials, on hopelessly small numbers of weird, unrepresentative patients, and analysed using techniques which are flawed by design, in such a way that they exaggerate the benefits of treatments. Unsurprisingly, these trials tend to produce results that favour the manufacturer. When trials throw up results that companies don't like, they are perfectly entitled to hide them from doctors and patients, so we only ever see a distorted picture of any drug's true effects. Regulators see most of the trial data, but only from early on in a drug's life, and even then they don't give this data to doctors or patients, or even to other parts of government. This distorted evidence is then communicated and applied in a distorted fashion. In their forty years of practice after leaving medical school, doctors hear about what works through ad hoc oral traditions, from sales reps, colleagues or journals. But those colleagues can be in the pay of drug companies – often undisclosed – and the journals are too. And so are the patient groups. And finally, academic papers, which everyone thinks of as objective, are often covertly planned and written by people who work directly for the companies, without disclosure. Sometimes whole academic journals are even owned outright by one drug company. Aside from all this, for several of the most important and enduring problems in medicine, we have no idea what the best treatment is, because it's not in anyone's financial interest to conduct any trials at all. These are ongoing problems, and although people have claimed to fix many of them, for the most part they have failed; so all these problems persist, but worse than ever, because now people can pretend that everything is fine after all."

                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Pharma

                              See that bit about "unrepresentative patients"? I've asked time and time again for a study showing how safe Propecia is for men of a young age or with less advanced balding. I have yet to see anything that satisfies that basic question.

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                              • BigThinker
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 1507

                                #30
                                "Actual scientists" aside, I still think the anecdotal evidence from pro-fin people vastly outweighs that of the anti-fin people. Not taking fin, going bald, and looking back wondering "what if" would be more painful than sides.

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