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  • beatinghairloss
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 213

    Originally posted by 2020
    ... right, it's not like high DHT would correspond to high libido right?

    The reason why those people are more "active" is due to heightened libido due to their already higher DHT.

    high DHT -> high libido
    high libido -> ?

    It can go both ways. This doesn't prove anything

    What you say Is counter intuitive. If higher frequency of ejaculations equals higher DHT and ejaculation is a voluntary behavior you cant simply say that you drop to your knees and ejaculate once DHT shoots up that’s just redundant. A simple math formula would tell you that the independent variable here is ejaculations not DHT. ITs product is DHT rising.

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    • 2020
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1513

      Originally posted by beatinghairloss
      What you say Is counter intuitive. If higher frequency of ejaculations equals higher DHT and ejaculation is a voluntary behavior you cant simply say that you drop to your knees and ejaculate once DHT shoots up that’s just redundant. A simple math formula would tell you that the independent variable here is ejaculations not DHT. ITs product is DHT rising.
      no.... HIGHER DHT equals higher frequency of ejaculations. What makes you think it's the other way around?
      There needs to be a before/after study to prove such theory

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      • beatinghairloss
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 213

        Originally posted by 2020
        no.... HIGHER DHT equals higher frequency of ejaculations. What makes you think it's the other way around?
        There needs to be a before/after study to prove such theory
        Because I used to be like you and do it every day sometimes 3 times per day. I thought my libido was just high. I checked out girls all the time watched porn loved seeing beautiful women in magazines. Now I have controlled that in an effort to reduce the urge and now I can go two weeks no problem. All I had to do is avoid sexual stimuli via all the things listed above. So if I have changed one of the variables in the equation then the others must MUST have changed, that’s fact. Your entire argument to this study is a belief that if DHT shoots up you will uncontrollably ejaculate more often you can find out how untrue that is if you take my advice. If you open your mind for just one second and hear what I say it will change your life and hair. I was no different then you don’t feel persecuted by me I want to help you.

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        • dex89
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 808

          Seems like most of you guys masturbate a lot. lol

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          • beatinghairloss
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 213

            2020. Just look at the forum post with an open mind. Try and think hey maybe he is right and then read it. If it doesn't convince you then we won’t discuss it ever again I will remain exclusive to my thread but please read it and open the links. I am 100% convinced with the literature evidence and personal evidence what I am saying. I am only still here to make sure people know. I am not saying a bald head will regrow all your hair over night or at all for that matter but I guarantee you will halt your hair loss in its tracks.

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            • 2020
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1513

              Originally posted by beatinghairloss
              Your entire argument to this study is a belief that if DHT shoots up you will uncontrollably ejaculate more often you can find out how untrue that is if you take my advice.
              uncontrollably ejaculate? holy shit

              high DHT would cause you to have high libido that's a fact. Whatever you do with that libido is up to you.

              Originally posted by beatinghairloss
              If you open your mind for just one second and hear what I say it will change your life and hair. I was no different then you don’t feel persecuted by me I want to help you.
              you're obviously trolling...

              what are you suggesting? No masturbation? where is the proof that DHT goes up AFTER MASTURBATION???

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              • 2020
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1513

                Data regarding the neuroendocrine response pattern to sexual arousal and orgasm in man are inconsistent. In this study, ten healthy male volunteers were continuously monitored for their cardiovascular and neuroendocrine response to sexual arousal and orgasm. Blood was continuously drawn before, duri …


                Neuroendocrine and cardiovascular response to sexual arousal and orgasm in men.

                Orgasm induced transient increases in heart rate, blood pressure and noradrenaline plasma levels. Prolactin plasma levels increased during orgasm and remained elevated 30 min after orgasm. In contrast, none of the other endocrine variables were significantly affected by sexual arousal and orgasm.

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                • beatinghairloss
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 213

                  Originally posted by 2020
                  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9695139

                  Neuroendocrine and cardiovascular response to sexual arousal and orgasm in men.
                  is there a point. They didn't test DHT

                  adrenaline, noradrenaline, cortisol, luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle stimulating hormone (FSH), prolactin, growth hormone (GH), beta-endorphin and testosterone.

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                  • beatinghairloss
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 213

                    2020. email me at beatinghairloss at hotmail.com

                    Lets exchange phone number all I need is ten minute of explaining what your looking at a few picture diagrams, and pictures that I have of my hairloss 2 years ago and today and I promise I will have you convinced. We have gone back and forth your reading it the way you want not the way it is. I need to explain. How much hair loss do you have?

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                    • yeahyeahyeah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1776

                      If masturbating really causes excessive hairloss, then why is it that different people bald at different rates.

                      I masturbate a lot, but I am a NW2, yet there are guys younger then me (I am 26) who are nw6s.

                      Does that mean they masturbate every minute of the day?

                      Absurd argument.

                      My bro is also a NW2, I doubt he masturbates as much as me. It comes down to genetics.

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                      • 2020
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1513

                        I would assume increased DHT comes from elevated prolactin which lasts 30 minutes... do you really think that would be enough to make people go bald?

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                        • 2020
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1513

                          Originally posted by beatinghairloss
                          Lets exchange phone number all I need is ten minute of explaining what your looking at a few picture diagrams, and pictures that I have of my hairloss 2 years ago and today and I promise I will have you convinced. We have gone back and forth your reading it the way you want not the way it is. I need to explain. How much hair loss do you have?
                          what exactly is your argument? Masturbation alone is responsible for baldness? The whatever supposed increase in DHT during it is temporary and it wouldn't be enough to do any significant damage.

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                          • beatinghairloss
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 213

                            Originally posted by 2020
                            I would assume increased DHT comes from elevated prolactin which lasts 30 minutes... do you really think that would be enough to make people go bald?
                            Yes. I suppose that depends on how much you’re doing it as well most on this forum and most men would agree they do it every day. DHT is powerful androgen and we know it causes hair loss do you think it would be worth a trial to see if I am right? I think many things can cause DHT to be produced, (weight lifting for example) but not to the degree that the prostate does it. If you go look at the thread you will see that people with genetic 5-Alpha Reductase deficiency have tiny prostates and no hair loss. If you get castrated no more T in the testicles passing through the prostate being converted to DHT no more hair loss. Propecia was made to shrink the prostate. The prostate starts rapidly growing at age 12 and doesn’t fully mature “for most” until 20. Hair loss is localized to the galea but for some it gets so tight all over they thin. Look at the signs my friend they are there. BTW masturbation and sex as far as I am concerned are the same thing. Its an ejaculation either way.

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                            • ThinningB420
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 169

                              I masturbate very infrequently. Sometimes every two weeks. Sometimes once a month. Sometimes I go half a year without it. In the last year my balding has increased significantly and I hadn't ejaculated for almost a whole year.

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                              • beatinghairloss
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 213

                                Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                                If masturbating really causes excessive hairloss, then why is it that different people bald at different rates.

                                I masturbate a lot, but I am a NW2, yet there are guys younger then me (I am 26) who are nw6s.

                                Does that mean they masturbate every minute of the day?

                                Absurd argument.

                                My bro is also a NW2, I doubt he masturbates as much as me. It comes down to genetics.
                                It would be impossible to record or understand rates sense puberty. The patterns and rate at which you lose your hair is dependent on the pressure applied. Try to move the part of your scalp where your losing hair then move the skin on the sides you will see a very apparent tightness. Well family members have different head shapes and pressure so that makes the real difference because people who never bald I swear to you I have studied them intimately and they have thick loose scalps like nothing we have ever had.

                                Look at the muscles you find that to be mere chance its configured that way.


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