Do Or Die (Literally)

[Footymad]

All i can say in response is that those men may have looked 'hideous' to you because you have highly biased view of baldness at the minute, as your losing a lot of hair.
I think you must have other issues at the moment that are making you feel so negatively about life. How can you honestly think about suicide when you have children who dont give a damn how you look? To leave your children without a father ........and a father without a son because of hair is really, really, really not worth it. I understand your pain, but look at the bigger picture.
Other than that, i think you are doing exactly the right thing getting professional help. Good luck : )

Jooder

I have contemplated taking my life for several months now and each time I do, it hurts so much to think of leaving my boys behind but let me ask you this, am I expected to stay alive, live a very very unhappy and miserable live/existence just for the sake of my two boys when I spend 10 hours a day at work with people constantly making comments about me losing my hair and then to only spend 2 short days a week with my boys?

Were is the logic? Spend an eternity at work been ridiculed to spending a minimal amount of time with my Sons, who will no doubt have a replacement father figure in time once my ex-wife finds a new man in her life?

The bigger picture for me is not staying alive living a miserable life just for the sake of my kids who will grow up possibly hating me or simply moving on with their own lives once older enough to do so without a care for their Mother or Father??? Just for the record, I have a superb relationship with both my boys and the bond between me and my eldest is untrue.

Can I ask you a question? Are you completely bald? How old are you and what response do you give to people who mock you about your hair loss? For example if somebody patted you on your head in front of a crowd of colleagues and said loudly " HEY UP THERE BALDY" how would you respond to them?

[jooder]

All i can say in response is that those men may have looked 'hideous' to you because you have highly biased view of baldness at the minute, as your losing a lot of hair.
I think you must have other issues at the moment that are making you feel so negatively about life. How can you honestly think about suicide when you have children who dont give a damn how you look? To leave your children without a father ........and a father without a son because of hair is really, really, really not worth it. I understand your pain, but look at the bigger picture.
Other than that, i think you are doing exactly the right thing getting professional help. Good luck : )

[Footymad]

Dude I understand where you are coming from

First of all there is already a cure, if not more than 1...

Histogen has the cure. It's in clinical trials and will most likely be released late 2013 in asia. There are many other companies also working on hair loss cures/solutions. All seem to have something promising. This is not 1910. This is 2010. We have modern science and it does look good.

The pictures are there, the results ARE there. There is already a cure. Don't be stupid man. Just hang on.


Why did u research hair loss for 6 months and only then start finasteride? You sound kinda like me...I should have started taking it way before I first read about it... But the stupid side effect reviews got me scared.


I don't know anything about your type of hair loss but for MPB there is enough to stop hair loss and get some regrowth right now.

(Finasteride, ketoconazole shampoo, spironolactone, fluridil etc)

Fao - KeepTheHair -

Whilst I really appreciate all your help and everybody elses, THERE IS NO CURE right now and I cannot wait another 3 years until 2013 for any trials or release in other Countries for Histogen.

As for not taking Propecia sooner, I was as you said, too scared of the side affects, but having started taking it 5 weeks ago I have no side affects but no noticeable hair loss reduction.

My hair loss seems to be a bit of MPB and stress related thinning, but I cannot relax and de-stress because of the look of my appearance and more so the aggravating 'insect type' crawling sensation on my scalp.

Update on my situation if interested. I went to my GP with my Father, spent over an hour there. The GP refered me to speak with a mental health assessment team who said they would visit me in person. Luckily I managed to speak to them over the phone and pursuade them I was not going to end my life certainly for the next two days at least any way as I had plans to end it all on Monday or Tuesday. They said they would still prefer to visit me in person tomorrow afternoon (Sunday) to which I agreed in principle of the matter, so lets see what tomorrow brings hey!!!

I am just going through a divorce having started a new relationship. Today I was meant to have my two boys (aged 6 and 18 months) for the whole weekend this weekend but had to give them back to their Mum as I felt way too unstable about things. They stayed over last night (Friday) and took my eldest to watch the local footy team play with my Father this afternoon after visiting my GP. I barely spoke two words to my Father or my Son during the whole game, and could not concentrate on the match at all. At half time I went to buy my Son some sweets and a drink and walked away from the counter without paying !!! It was about 2 minutes later when a member of staff approached me and told me I had'nt paid that I realised they were right. My head seems like its somewhere else at the minute. This is all totally out of charachter for me and I feel very guilty towards my Father and Son. My Father for burdening him with my suicidal thoughts and my Son for not making the most of my time with him at the game and having to cut his weekend with his Dad (Me) short because of how upset and unfocussed I have become. I do not want to even exist anymore and hate the outside world. I wish I could be like most other Men who just get on with it but at Football today I kept looking at other Men who were bald thinking, I will never allow myself to look that hideous, some with completely shaved heads and others with horse-shoes. This will never be how I end up in a few months !!!

[KeepTheHair]

Dude I understand where you are coming from

First of all there is already a cure, if not more than 1...

Histogen has the cure. It's in clinical trials and will most likely be released late 2013 in asia. There are many other companies also working on hair loss cures/solutions. All seem to have something promising. This is not 1910. This is 2010. We have modern science and it does look good.

The pictures are there, the results ARE there. There is already a cure. Don't be stupid man. Just hang on.


Why did u research hair loss for 6 months and only then start finasteride? You sound kinda like me...I should have started taking it way before I first read about it... But the stupid side effect reviews got me scared.


I don't know anything about your type of hair loss but for MPB there is enough to stop hair loss and get some regrowth right now.

(Finasteride, ketoconazole shampoo, spironolactone, fluridil etc)

[jooder]

Jooder

Nobody seems interested in providing me with a solution to my hair loss or dealing with my inflamed scalp.

You are generalising with this comment. You have posted here and at another forum and have got some answers..... sometimes its the people who have tried and tested these products that know more than a GP with little interest in hair loss.
Nizoral, ketoconazole cream, coal tar, apple cider vinegar are all anti inflammatories and can be bought now, today. Nizoral, coal tar at tesco. Apple cider vinegar at holland and barrett.
Why dont you go out and buy 2 of them or even all 3..... and then make sure to use 1 a day ....untill the inflammation subsides?

[jooder]

Footymad - One thing that you have got to realise is that everything takes time. Using nizoral twice in two weeks is nothing.Regardless of whether you use nizoral or coal tar shampoo, use it daily or at least every other day and stick to it. Nizoral will not cause hair loss by using it for a couple of weeks........the SLS it contains is a concern for some, but they are talking about if you use it for months. You could even try the revita shampoo or buy some ketoconazole cream, there are loads of options.
It sounds like you have got yourself in a bit of a state.
Hair loss can be very traumatic, but dont let it take over your life. Have a look around you.....there are men with hair, men with shaved bald heads, even men with the horseshoe look - and they can ALL get women and be successfull in whatever they choose.

[Footymad]

Jooder

I have used Nizoral twice in the past two weeks but been massively put off it due to trichologist warning me that it can actually cause hair loss and now using coal tar instead.

My Dad dragged me to see my GP today due to my suicidal thoughts, Very embarrassing to most I suppose but I did'nt feel any. I am very numb at the moment of any feelings. I am due to see a Crisis resolution Team today at 6pm so might end up in the looney bin by the end of the meeting, who knows.

I have gone from been one of the most self confident, popular person on the block to now having no self esteem. I was always looked at by my friends and peers as a very popular person. I always dressed well and would class myself as been fairly attractive to many women over the years.

This whole hair loss has ruin and will probably cost me my life.

Hopefully this can be used to give understanding many others who experience what I have. Nobody seems interested in providing me with a solution to my hair loss or dealing with my inflamed scalp. GP seems more interested in putting me in the looney bin and filling me full of anti depressants!!!

I have worked since I was 16 years old and currently work as a Professional person for the government and class myself as a fairly intelligent person. I am not the type of fruit loop you expect to express these thoughts or feelings.

Thanks guys - Bye for now...

[jooder]

Footymad - Its understandable that you are feeling down and very negative. But there are treatments that DO work. Finasteride, minoxidil and nizoral have all been shown to be beneficial for hair loss. Thats a fact.
I think your case is somewhat different. MPB tends to happen gradually over many years......yet you say you have lost much of your hair recently, coupled with massive inflammation. That doesnt sound like 'normal' MPB to me.
Use nizoral every day for the next week....... and see if the 'crawling' reduces.

[Footymad]

Lastly there is no way will I wait the remainder of my whole life say if I was to live another 40 years hoping each day a cure will be found. Its a joke. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. This is not just negativty but reality.

[Footymad]

I am positive that there will be solutions in the near future.

LIKE WHAT EXACTLY


Just hold out man.

There are some good stuff now to help meanwhile though.

LIKE WHAT EXACTLY


For every bit it sucks right now it will be awesome once we find a solution..and awesome for much longer.

Don't give up.

I have spent the last 6 months trying to educate myself. Currently taking Propecia for 5 weeks. No signs of improvement yet although I know its early days. My scalp crawling sensation is almost as annoying and frustrating as my hair loss/plug full of hair/pillow full of hair. If I could find something to guarantee to stop the crawling insect feeling in my scalp. The only thing that stops the feeling momentarily is if I ruffle through my hair, then 30 seconds later it returns.

As for hope and holding out. My Grandfather is 77 and you could say he has been waiting his whole life for a cure or miracle pill. I am pleased you have hope KeepTheHair but as for myself I am not so hopeful. There will NEVER be a cure. If its one thing I have educated myself about since researching this disease (Hair Loss) is that nobody takes you serious about going bald and nobody seems to offer any solution. The whole balding theme just seems to lack any development scientifically and has done for years. GP's seem to know next to nothing about it. My GP when I went to see him said to me " Well what do you want me to do for it?" I mentioned Propecia and he then told me he was of the understanding it was no longer been prescribed !!! Then he found it was. This is my point, nobody has any answers. I am convinced my hair loss is not simply due to MPB because of the rapod loss and horroble insect feeling every day I awake which lasts all day. This to me does not seem normal at all, but who do I turn to for a definate diagnosis? The answer is NOBODY. I went to see a Dermatologist who told me I had a minor amount of Ecszma and to accept people at my work place would call me names such as baldie because of my loss. Not what I really wanted to hear to be fair. I still have I would say 50% coverage at the moment and able to disguise the loss but it will only be a matter of a few months at this rate before it all goes as nothing can be or will be done by anybody.

Keep hoping KeepTheHair - Thank you

[KeepTheHair]

Thoroughly educate yourself meanwhile!

[KeepTheHair]

I am positive that there will be solutions in the near future.


Just hold out man.

There are some good stuff now to help meanwhile though.


For every bit it sucks right now it will be awesome once we find a solution..and awesome for much longer.

Don't give up.

[jooder]

Its an ingredient in nizoral shampoo that may cause problems - sodium lauryl sulfate. But its in most shampoos anyway.....shouldnt be a problem unless you use it daily. Coal tar is supposed to be ok, as is head and shoulders with zinc. I would use nizoral intially though, at least for a couple of weeks to kill the itching. Then again, a trichologist should know more than me.

[Footymad]

just been told by a trichologist that nizoral can actually cause hair loss and told me to use coal tar shampoo instead?

your thoughts whilst i'm still here...

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The good thing is that nizoral shampoo works against all these - its sold in tesco in the uk. Bear in mind that its main purpose is against dandruff......so the 'leave on for five mins' instructions will probably not apply for your inflammation.

The shampoo I use, Revita, has the same key ingredients along with things like taurine etc. They say leave in for five minutes too, so my guess is following the same instructions ought to lead to the desired result.