Do Or Die (Literally)

[ronin77]

oh

If you dont think your a catch.......nobody else will. People are attracted to people who make them happy - basically, if a woman associates you with good times and positive thoughts thats half the battle won

see this is something people tell bald people to make them feel good i still remember recieving similar comments from my mum. and your comments about body image and posture are incorrect i have excellent body image and posture. everybody knows that when 2 people meet it is the attraction part that gets the second date (not the personality) so your wrong in saying the battle is already half won, infact it is already half lost. most girls have it set in their head that they will never be with a bald guy. so when they first see you its already over for you before you have a chance to present your personality. i have met a few girls on the beach before in a hat, got a date, and when meeting them that night at a restaurant or something, no hat, some of the facial expressions are priceless had one girl say to me 'Oh your bald um'. so yeah stop patronising and face reality joober, this is a massive issue for some of us guys even if not for you.

[ronin77]

It's largely a problem with perception. Hair styles can say a lot about a person and in terms of presenting an image it is incredibly important. The trouble with shaved/buzzed looks for those of us who have lost hair in a diffuse way is that at a number 1 guard it can still look like it was an act of choice. In my field of work, a number 1 guard shouts 'I'm an insensitive meat head who can't work with the opposite sex without grunting and I'm incapable of doing any task that requires an ounce of commitment.'

The reality in my field of work is that you also don't have long to make an impression. Bald blokes, and this is at best, are perceived as invisible drones with no personality. That is, of course, unless they choose to remain dishevelled with what they have left, in which case their image is 'disorganised.'

Women aren't an issue at all for me. I'm not saying I have women falling at my feet (I do agree with those who point out that most women think bald isn't attractive and can be a turn off); rather, that I'm in a relationship, I'm not looking and also, even if I were, I wouldn't particularly want to date a shallow, airheaded stick like so many men seem to crave.

The areas where I will be disadvantaged are in my career, because of the perception problem (although working for myself has alleviated that, although I do wonder how many potential clients I have lost) and also I can kiss the idea of having a public persona goodbye. I used to want to go into politics, but bald guys tend to get stuck at the bottom in local councils and struggle to go any further. There are a few exceptions, but statistically I'm heavily at a disadvantage.

great post loved it, although i cant relate, as i work as a machine operator in a factory and have never noticed the things you mentioned. but i can see how this has effected you greatly. very interesting to hear the way baldness has effected peoples lives. still waiting for your reason dave or you just gunna chuck your 2 cents in when ever you feel like it?

[ronin77]

Interesting

So you are good looking with hair but ugly with no hair

My issue is low self esteem , self confidence , insecurity etc because of my hair loss
I don't think I am ugly with or without hair but the loss of hair has messed me up .
Meeting women is the last thing on mind right now

ah yes Dave52 is still in denial under the impression he can probably still reverse his hair loss. i was totally honest in my problem with being bald dave yet you are yet to state why you have a problem going bald.

[ronin77]

So ahir loss bothers you because you can't pick up / meet women ?

I ain't a doctor but if that's the oNLY reason maybe your issues are deeper than that

um ok footymad hit the nail on the head, basically that is what we are here for. and whats your main problem with going bald Dave52? (why are you here) getting teased from your friends?

[dgman21]

This should not be happenning until age 50 minimum

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You often hear pop psychologists claiming women perceive bald men as more 'mature' and 'stable.' Maybe that explains a lot. Women looking for one night stands are looking for neither of these things. Also, the sort of women who are looking for this sort of thing are not necessarily what a man in their 20s wants.

[dgman21]

Yes picking up women is important for your self esteem!!! It makes me very self confident when a woman comes up to me and wants my number or says your hot....Thats all associated with looks....HAIRLOSS SUCKS!!!

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I'm not convinced by that though. When I used to see bald blokes in the street or at the pub, they weren't screaming insecurity or lack of confidence, they just happened to not be getting any female attention.

The reality is you don't walk into a pub and see bald men crying into their drinks. Normally, I would suggest what I've seen is a lot of grotesque overcompensating; maybe that's the real problem?

[jooder]

If you dont think your a catch.......nobody else will. People are attracted to people who make them happy - basically, if a woman associates you with good times and positive thoughts thats half the battle won.
Unfortunately, depressed balding men have a negative body language, poor posture and tend to moan.....would you desire a person giving off those vibes??
Am i saying a bald guy can get any girl in the world? - no.........but then again a guy with a bush head couldnt. Of course there has to be some attraction.....but many bald guys are downgrading themselves initially with the image they project to the world.

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It's largely a problem with perception. Hair styles can say a lot about a person and in terms of presenting an image it is incredibly important. The trouble with shaved/buzzed looks for those of us who have lost hair in a diffuse way is that at a number 1 guard it can still look like it was an act of choice. In my field of work, a number 1 guard shouts 'I'm an insensitive meat head who can't work with the opposite sex without grunting and I'm incapable of doing any task that requires an ounce of commitment.'

The reality in my field of work is that you also don't have long to make an impression. Bald blokes, and this is at best, are perceived as invisible drones with no personality. That is, of course, unless they choose to remain dishevelled with what they have left, in which case their image is 'disorganised.'

Women aren't an issue at all for me. I'm not saying I have women falling at my feet (I do agree with those who point out that most women think bald isn't attractive and can be a turn off); rather, that I'm in a relationship, I'm not looking and also, even if I were, I wouldn't particularly want to date a shallow, airheaded stick like so many men seem to crave.

The areas where I will be disadvantaged are in my career, because of the perception problem (although working for myself has alleviated that, although I do wonder how many potential clients I have lost) and also I can kiss the idea of having a public persona goodbye. I used to want to go into politics, but bald guys tend to get stuck at the bottom in local councils and struggle to go any further. There are a few exceptions, but statistically I'm heavily at a disadvantage.

[DAVE52]

Interesting

So you are good looking with hair but ugly with no hair

My issue is low self esteem , self confidence , insecurity etc because of my hair loss
I don't think I am ugly with or without hair but the loss of hair has messed me up .
Meeting women is the last thing on mind right now

[Footymad]

So ahir loss bothers you because you can't pick up / meet women ?

I ain't a doctor but if that's the oNLY reason maybe your issues are deeper than that

DAVE: Its about public perception in general and yes for me too, I feel it is important not to feel ugly every day of your life and to feel attractive by the opposite sex. Is this not what we were put on the planet for? To meet women and reproduce? Which women would want to reproduce with an ugly man with no hair?

I see massive similarities between myself and Ronin.

[DAVE52]

So ahir loss bothers you because you can't pick up / meet women ?

I ain't a doctor but if that's the oNLY reason maybe your issues are deeper than that

[ronin77]

Therapists are bullshit..Xanax will help deal with the anxiety. The moving to Thailand idea isn't bad...The western society women are way too judgemental about looks. Online dating,bars,etc...they will definitely not pick the bald guy...I was at a comedy club with only 2 bald guys there and they made bald jokes yesterday...NOT FUNNY!!!I need to make a goal like you said Ronin and move there.
Is the phillipines really the way to go?? Any other countries?Ideas people?? I agree a cure should have been found by now too but society is making way way way too much money on so called hair regrowth surgeries and products!!!!

also russia and im not sure but im guessing pretty much most of south america, as for 'white' countries russia, ukraine and those countries would be a good start

[ronin77]

one more thing

just one more thing to those younger people who are just waking up to the reality of a bald future, i would like to share my story. i was 17 finished year 12 world at my feet, good at footy very athletic very popular with the girls, i thought i would go to uni play up a bit, finish uni then find a beautiful girl (possibly an ex) get married and have kids, the end. well did 1 year of uni and at 19 deferred uni to work a in a night club and return to uni in 2 years or so well had the time of my life in that night club (i still had a full head of hair) then at 21 (slight signs of recseding but still nice hair) i decided was time to return and finish uni did 6 months balding had set in aggressively and a bald uni student isnt cool lol. it was then it dawned on me at abt the age of 21 i was about to go from someone i loved being to someone i didnt even want to think about. i was shattered, quit uni, withdrew from friends and family, sank into deep depression started smoking drugs heavily (had experimented before but never on a regular basis cos i loved my life and didnt want to ruin it with drugs) so to all the people saying there are other underlying factors or reasons to someone wanting to kill themselves due to going bald is crap because i know for a fact going bald can ruin your life and drive you to suicidal thoughts.
but as i got older it got easier as i noticed other people my age were starting to go bald and it made me think alot more about the world and the people in it, and where i wanted to fit into the world. i created my goal and have been working towards it now for about 5 years. so to all the young guys keep fit and if your not get fit. when i became a recluse all i did was be by myself and excercise, i took all my anger out on martial arts training and body conditioning. i regret not finishing uni i regret hitting the drugs hard i regret losing some friends but im so glad i stayed fit and excercised cos at 33 now i still have a body a 20 year old would love and all these guys the same age as me that have been siiting in the comfortable happy seat with their full head of hair and hot girl friends and wives are starting to hit midlife lose hair themselves are already over weight cos they havent had to worry about their image pretty soon a bald 40 year old with a tradesmans body (without the gut) looks very attractive. so young guys if you want to settle down and get married but cant meet girls due to baldness, remember western girls suck, shave your head go back packing to a country where culture doesnt revolve around image and meet some excotic young beautiful local girl and marry her.