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Fin and minoxidil my man.
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I wouldn't recommend the shampoo unless a fungal infection is the cause of your hair loss. The Biotin as a natural supplement is gold, though.
I would take Minoxidil + Biotin + Saw Palmetto to start off; hold off on the Finasteride unless you're really desperate, because those side effects can be really nasty.Comment
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Hey jean what other vitamins would you recommend to help.with lowering DHT?Comment
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There is a giant list of vitamins and supplements that supposedly lower DHT, off the top of my head: saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil, grape seed oil, green tea, black tea, giant dodder, stinging nettle, beta sisosterol. The only three that have clear evidence and have been studied in reasonable detail are saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil and beta sisosterol. High quality extracts rather than the plant itself are of much more use than the product itself. Beta sisosterol should have the best chance of making a difference according to the studies, however much more work has been done on saw palmetto research. I have also heard of a number of people getting sexual sides from beta sisosterol, which bodes well for its effectiveness. Most of these work by reducing the enzyme alpha 5 reductase which aids in DHT production but also sexual functioning, however there is another supplement S-equol that is supposed to bind to free DHT directly, and therefore reduce the possibility of sexual sides, the science is pretty clear but I can't find anyone who has success with it and people aren't clear about what dosage is necessary. Even if they don't work for you, at least if you're someone incredibly sensitive and get sides from natural remedies then you know you're not going to do well on finasteride.
I would say that the primary reason I came to believe in natural remedies as having a noticeable effect is I was on a creatine supplement for body building about 12 months ago, and within 4 months had lost about 2 years worth of hair at 22, despite the data suggesting hairloss is generally linear. I looked into it and there is substantial evidence that daily use of creatine can increase DHT by 50%. Drugs designed to manipulate hormones are always going to be stronger, however there is good reason to look into diet and supplements.Comment
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What dose do you recommend for beta sitosterol? I take 320 mgs of saw palmetto 160 at 2 pm and 160 mgs at 5 pm and then.160 mgs of beta at 7 pm but I have no sides and I take 1000 mgs at 8 am in the morning I feel like since I dont get the.sides maybe its not working? Should I up the dose on the beta and is it safe?Comment
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What % fatty acids is the saw palmetto? 85-95% is a high quality standard. Over 1000 mgs per day of beta sisosterol is larger than the dose I have seen in hairloss studies where 60% of those studied regrew or maintained baseline. Some people don't get sides from finasteride and yet it still makes a big difference, I wouldn't take that as it isn't working, but if you can handle those DHT blockers you could consider at least starting fin on a half dose of 0.5 mg in the future. In the mean time, stick with the saw palmetto and beta sisosterol for at least 6 months every day with your current regime, definitely add a ketoconazole shampoo (another clinically proven treatment) like Regenepure DR or Nizoral and try adding some minoxidil without propyl glycol and preferably low alcohol if you want regrowth, which decreases the absorption and chance of sides.
On a side note, saw palmetto, beta sisosterol, grape seed extract and pumpkin seed oil together made my acne completely clear and improved my skin, which is a pretty good indication of it working well against decreasing DHT.
Other tiny things like excessive masturbation and high blood sugar can also result in higher levels of DHT. I've pretty much entirely cut out processed sugar.Comment
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I take 160 mgs of beta should I up my dose and can masterbating once every 2 days be bad? And I drink a lot of juice like 2 cups a day is that bad as well? And is there a best time to take these vitamins or should I keep it the same routine?Comment
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Once every two days is very little, I suspect it's only a problem if you're doing it 2 or 3 times a day. Two cups of juice a day is likely fine too, that along with one serving of a medium sized fruit like an apple or banana is unlikely to be harmful. I would cut out sweets, chocolate,soft drink and processed sugar products products entirely, there is evidence that high blood sugar can lead to hairloss, and quite frankly in general health regards everyone would be better off without them. However cutting out fruit and juice entirely would result in other deficiencies, so as long as its reasonable don't cut them out of your diet. It isn't going to ruin the effects of your saw palmetto or beta sisosterol if you occasionally treat yourself, but you may as well attack hairloss from every angle possible. Almost everyone I have seen in on various forums and studies has had results with saw palmetto, a high quality sensitive minoxidil and keto shampoo. Even optimising your diet, taking palmetto and beta sisosterol while using a shampoo with ketoconazole and DHT blockers should have a reasonable effect. If it hasn't worked in 6 months you can also try a half dose of fin every other day.
I'd say stick with the routine in terms of times too.Comment
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Alright.one last thing if I up the dose of beta can that be harmful For future refrences or health wise I read it can cause high blood pressure?Comment
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I've read that more than 5000 mg can be harmful, although I have never heard anyone take more than 1000 mg in supplementation, and nor have I heard anyone who had serious health issues from taking too much aside from a few who had loss of libido. If that happens you can always cut back a bit.Comment
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Start Finasteride combined with Minoxidil ASAP. When used together, there are more benefits, and they are faster to.
Do it before it's too late. Receding temples are the hardest to grow back.
The good news is your only 19. If you start now, you'll gain all of it back (most likely), and become a "full head" again.
If you wait a couple of years, NW1. Longer you put it off, the worse it will be. And by
worse I mean permanent.Comment
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None. But I wish I started Finasteride sooner. I didn't start it until my forties. That
was a mistake on my part.
Unfortunately now I'm paying the prices. I take topical Progesterone (I'm a guy), topical Finasteride, sometimes mixed with Propecia (one milligram oral Fin), and thirty percent Minoxidil.
Had I used it earlier, I would have been much better off than I am now (I'm Norwood three Vertex,
and very bad).
I used to be between four and five, with a one/two inch bald spot and much more recession on
my hairline. It's taken three years to get to Norwood III, on aggressive treatments.
Also, I sometimes supplement this with five percent Minoxidil foam.
So far, no side effects. But I'm very tall (couple inches over six feet tall). And I'm big boned.Comment
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