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  • yeahyeahyeah
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1776

    #16
    Originally posted by Tracy C
    Well, it certainly isn't masculine. It's just not the norm for guys, especially caucasian guys. This is why ethical hair restoration doctors will not reconstruct a juvenile hairline on a male unless he is transgendered. It just doesn't look right.

    Maybe it would be nice if we had a choice on this matter.

    If I had the choice I would rather have it.

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    • yeahyeahyeah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1776

      #17
      Originally posted by burtandernie
      I think a juvenile hairline looks better then a mature one but I guess opinions vary. I dont think its feminine either to have juvenile or perfect hair.
      You are balding, it is just a term to describe age appropriate hairloss - which is based on men balding generally.

      Yes, it sucks.

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      • 25 going on 65
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 1476

        #18
        Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
        So why do the following men:









        not have mature hairlines?
        They are the anomalies, most white guys do not keep all their hair at the temples & hairline corners past their late teens or early 20s.
        tbh Cruise hairline does not look juvenile. See the sharp corner angles & faded temples.

        A lot of prepubescent boys have extremely rounded hairlines like girls. I saw a pic of my hair combed back when I was 11, it was totally rounded (not even slightly squared like most of those guys above). If I had that hairline today I would like ridiculous....but I would probably style to hide it
        I like Pitt's hair in that pic because it is kind of squared off at the hairline corners (not a halfmoon shape), but he has very strong temple points. Nice look on a grown dude

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        • yeahyeahyeah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1776

          #19
          Originally posted by 25 going on 65
          They are the anomalies, most white guys do not keep all their hair at the temples & hairline corners past their late teens or early 20s.
          tbh Cruise hairline does not look juvenile. See the sharp corner angles & faded temples.

          A lot of prepubescent boys have extremely rounded hairlines like girls. I saw a pic of my hair combed back when I was 11, it was totally rounded (not even slightly squared like most of those guys above). If I had that hairline today I would like ridiculous....but I would probably style to hide it
          I like Pitt's hair in that pic because it is kind of squared off at the hairline corners (not a halfmoon shape), but he has very strong temple points. Nice look on a grown dude
          TBH it is more common then you think, look at Spanish footballers - Fernando Torres, Christiano Ronaldo.

          My friends who are not receeding in real life, hair has been like that (Round, or squared off) since they were young.

          If you lost hair, you are balding. There is no such thing as a mature hairline. It is just a mild form of hairloss.

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          • burtandernie
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 1563

            #20
            Yeah just sucks you have to trade your health for your hair. I picked health for now because I just dont think finasteride will even keep all your hair over the years anyways and the sides have a good chance of showing eventually. Nothing good from changing your hormones will ever come of it

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            • Tracy C
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 3083

              #21
              Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
              So why do the following men...

              not have mature hairlines?
              Your reading and comprehension skills have not improved at all I see.

              Call in during the next live show and talk to Spender about it.

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              • Tracy C
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 3083

                #22
                Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                There is no such thing as a mature hairline.
                Stop this BS. You are not helping yourself or anyone else.

                Call in during the next live show and talk to Spencer about it.

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                • 25 going on 65
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1476

                  #23
                  Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                  If you lost hair, you are balding. There is no such thing as a mature hairline. It is just a mild form of hairloss.
                  "Mature hairline" w/o MPB refers to when a guy recedes at the temples/hairline corners & then does not progress. This is the norm for white guys without mpb (there are exceptions just like there are a small % of left handed people). Technically you can call this a balding process but it is not true MPB
                  If a guy has loss in the crown/midscalp/forelock at the same time, or if he keeps receding past a mature hairline, he has MPB. If he has loss in the horseshoe area too, it is DUPA (if it is from genetics)

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                  • burtandernie
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 1563

                    #24
                    I think its purely opinion whether you consider a mature hairline part of the MPB process or not. If its not part of the MPB process then what mechanism causes those hairs to miniaturize in the same way as normal MPB follicle? Seems one in the same to me.

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                    • 25 going on 65
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1476

                      #25
                      Originally posted by burtandernie
                      I think its purely opinion whether you consider a mature hairline part of the MPB process or not. If its not part of the MPB process then what mechanism causes those hairs to miniaturize in the same way as normal MPB follicle? Seems one in the same to me.
                      Not positive but it makes sense to me that the mechanism would be the same. Maybe the "mature hairline for 40 years" guys have androgen sensitive follicles only in the temples/hairline corners (whereas true MPB sufferers have them all over the scalp)

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                      • yeahyeahyeah
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1776

                        #26
                        Originally posted by 25 going on 65
                        "Mature hairline" w/o MPB refers to when a guy recedes at the temples/hairline corners & then does not progress. This is the norm for white guys without mpb (there are exceptions just like there are a small % of left handed people). Technically you can call this a balding process but it is not true MPB
                        If a guy has loss in the crown/midscalp/forelock at the same time, or if he keeps receding past a mature hairline, he has MPB. If he has loss in the horseshoe area too, it is DUPA (if it is from genetics)
                        There is no science behind this claim.

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                        • 25 going on 65
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1476

                          #27
                          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                          There is no science behind this claim.
                          Huh? Mature hairline is an observable phenomenon & happens to most white men who do not go beyond NW1-2. Go outside, look around
                          Are you looking for a study to conclude the majority of non MPB sufferers do not keep a female hairline? This is like waiting for a study to tell you if you jump off a roof, you will fall to the ground. Falling = observable phenomenon. You can say there is no science behind the claim because a clinical trial has not been set up, but it is something we know exists. On the other hand....scientific study got us gravitational theory which offers an explanation for why/how this happens

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                          • Tracy C
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 3083

                            #28
                            Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                            There is no science behind this claim.
                            Originally posted by 25 going on 65
                            Huh? Mature hairline is an observable phenomenon & happens to most white men who do not go beyond NW1-2. Go outside, look around
                            Are you looking for a study to conclude the majority of non MPB sufferers do not keep a female hairline? This is like waiting for a study to tell you if you jump off a roof, you will fall to the ground.
                            ^That is an excellent way to put it. For thousands of years throughout recorded history most men have developed the natural and normal adult male hairline as they masculinize. History also carries with it the evidence that if a male is castrated, the masculinization process gets interrupted. If a male is castrated before he develops a mature male hairline, he will never develop a mature male hairline. That is pretty solid proof right there that the mature male hairline does in fact exist. No argument against it can stand up to proof as solid as that.

                            Some of these guys have no interest in hearing the truth. They only want to hear what they want to hear and nothing else. This persistent refusal to accept the truth on this matter qualifies as a psychosis.

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                            • 25 going on 65
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1476

                              #29
                              I think he is just questioning if the mature hairline is actually the onset of very slow MPB. For some guys it is but I have seen too many guys stay NW1.5-2 for decades to think it is always slow MPB. W/e is causing the "adult male hairline," many guys who have it do not have DHT sensitive follicles elsewhere

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                              • Tracy C
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 3083

                                #30
                                Originally posted by 25 going on 65
                                I think he is just questioning if the mature hairline is actually the onset of very slow MPB.
                                Some of these guys are not questioning it, they are aggressively insisting that it is MPB. This is very uninformed, unrealistic and unreasonable. It is a psychosis.



                                Originally posted by 25 going on 65
                                For some guys it is but I have seen too many guys stay NW1.5-2 for decades to think it is always slow MPB.
                                This is true.



                                Originally posted by 25 going on 65
                                ...many guys who have it do not have DHT sensitive follicles elsewhere
                                This is also true. They develop the natural and normal adult mature male hairline and that is all. Lucky guys they are.

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