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  • Dan26
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 1270

    #31
    Maybe everyone you see with a 'mature hairline', is secretly on fin/dut!

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    • Tracy C
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 3083

      #32
      Originally posted by Dan26
      Maybe everyone you see with a 'mature hairline', is secretly on fin/dut!
      These medication have not always existed, yet men with mature hairlines and no further loss have existed throughout recorded history.

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      • Morbo
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 262

        #33
        I think/hope he was being sarcastic.

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        • yeahyeahyeah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1776

          #34
          Originally posted by 25 going on 65
          I think he is just questioning if the mature hairline is actually the onset of very slow MPB. For some guys it is but I have seen too many guys stay NW1.5-2 for decades to think it is always slow MPB. W/e is causing the "adult male hairline," many guys who have it do not have DHT sensitive follicles elsewhere
          It's slow MPB.

          I know many guys who don't receed at all.

          And Tracy - how can they be 'lucky guys' if the mature hairline exists. Can you both even show pictures of what mature hairline looks like?


          It's because of deluding people into believing that it exists, that guys don't take preventive measures. It's also why HT drs are able to sell HTs where afterwards you still look like you are balding.

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          • yeahyeahyeah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1776

            #35
            Originally posted by Tracy C
            These medication have not always existed, yet men with mature hairlines and no further loss have existed throughout recorded history.
            Post up pictures. Educate us visually.

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            • 25 going on 65
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 1476

              #36
              Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
              It's slow MPB.

              I know many guys who don't receed at all.
              If they are >25 they are the exception, not the norm, as you know
              & how do you explain guys who recede a little in their 20s & then do not change for 20-30 years (or more)? That is not slow, that is stopped. Sometimes real MPB develops later....but not always

              Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
              And Tracy - how can they be 'lucky guys' if the mature hairline exists. Can you both even show pictures of what mature hairline looks like?
              It looks like the temples/hairlines you see on most white guys >25. You even posted an example (Tom Cruise)

              Tom Cruise w/ juvi hairline (or close to....pay special attention to the angles of the temple point, on the side where his hair is combed back, + the angle of his hairline corner):


              Tom Cruise more recent:


              Temple points faded, corners backed up.

              Also scroll down about halfway on this page (probably some kind of Asian gay site or something, not sure because I found it on google images, but there is no nudity): http://www.siamzone.com/board/view.php?sid=3542705
              Young TC is not only pulling his hair back to show his hairline, he is stretching his scalp backwards

              Now see this more recent pic: http://www.likino.com/men-hair-style...se-hair-style/

              The difference in hairline/temples is very obvious. If you are saying a female hairline looks better on grown men, that isa matter of opinion. If you are saying grown men all have female hairlines unless they have MPB, then no.

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              • greatjob!
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 909

                #37
                If you base your life expectations and looks on that of the most good looking people in the world, i.e. movie stars, you're gonna have a bad time in life.

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                • Tracy C
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 3083

                  #38
                  Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                  Post up pictures. Educate us visually.
                  Get out and about and look around. Watch old movies. Look through old high school and college year books. The evidence is all around you.

                  You want to maintain your psychosis. It would not do any good for me or anyone else to show you visually. You do not want the truth and you are not willing to accept the truth in any way shape or form.

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                  • Notcoolanymore
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 2246

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Tracy C
                    ^ History also carries with it the evidence that if a male is castrated, the masculinization process gets interrupted. If a male is castrated before he develops a mature male hairline, he will never develop a mature male hairline. That is pretty solid proof right there that the mature male hairline does in fact exist. No argument against it can stand up to proof as solid as that.
                    Who conducted the experiment with castrating men? How many castrated men were involved in the study? I would like to read the scientific literature on this study. Can you give me the link? Thanks

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                    • Tracy C
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3083

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Notcoolanymore
                      Who conducted the experiment with castrating men? How many castrated men were involved in the study?
                      It was not a study, it is an observation, like the example given about falling off a building. You do not need a study to tell you that falling off a building can hurt you. If you do, you have much bigger worries than hair loss. We are talking about recorded history. Castration of humans is no longer done as often as it was in the past. You are not at all likely to find very many males who would be willing to participate in a study that involves castration.

                      In the past, castration was more common. Particularly within the Catholic church. Choir boys who had exceptionally beautiful voices would be castrated to prevent their bodies from masculinizing and thus prevent their voices from changing. You can observe photos of these poor boys and see that they look very feminine, including feminine hairlines.

                      Also in recorded history, it has been observed that young male slaves who were castrated never masculinize - and never develop mature male hairlines. Their appearance becomes very feminine, including feminine hairlines.

                      For the most part, the only modern day examples of the effect of castration on hair that can be observed are male to female transsexuals who transition while they are very young. If they transition before their bodies fully masculinize, they never develop a mature male hairline. Those who transition later in life, after their bodies have fully masculinized, usually have a mature male hairline unless they get it fixed though hair transplant surgery.

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                      • Notcoolanymore
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 2246

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Tracy C
                        It was not a study, it is an observation, like the example given about falling off a building. You do not need a study to tell you that falling off a building can hurt you. If you do, you have much bigger worries than hair loss. We are talking about recorded history. Castration of humans is no longer done as often as it was in the past. You are not at all likely to find very many males who would be willing to participate in a study that involves castration.

                        In the past, castration was more common. Particularly within the Catholic church. Choir boys who had exceptionally beautiful voices would be castrated to prevent their bodies from masculinizing and thus prevent their voices from changing. You can observe photos of these poor boys and see that they look very feminine, including feminine hairlines.

                        Also in recorded history, it has been observed that young male slaves who were castrated never masculinize - and never develop mature male hairlines. Their appearance becomes very feminine, including feminine hairlines.

                        For the most part, the only modern day examples of the effect of castration on hair that can be observed are male to female transsexuals who transition while they are very young. If they transition before their bodies fully masculinize, they never develop a mature male hairline. Those who transition later in life, after their bodies have fully masculinized, usually have a mature male hairline unless they get it fixed though hair transplant surgery.
                        I was just being silly. Thanks for the response though. You really know your stuff when it comes to hair loss.

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                        • swingline747
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 172

                          #42
                          Originally posted by burtandernie
                          Well thats not really true. I know a guy that is 40 that has every single hair on his temple so genetics missed him somehow I guess? Maybe current treatments cant fix it is an explanation or we dont know why that happens? Its not genetic certainly in all men maybe most.
                          i can already see my brother will never lose his temple hair. He has the exact same hairline he did when we were 10.
                          Consumes my brain. I would give anything for my hair back.

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                          • Tracy C
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 3083

                            #43
                            Originally posted by swingline747
                            Consumes my brain. I would give anything for my hair back.
                            The genetic lottery is often unfair and unkind. It just is what it is. Don't allow it to consume you. You have a life to live. Go out and live it.

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                            • Jazz1
                              Inactive
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1598

                              #44
                              I use promox and my temples have improved, had loads miniture hair come and thickening etc. just placed an order today again for the sprays as the tretinoin can irritate the scalp so gone for DMI instead, you can see those hairs. Has made me hairy a bit more but I like it as more hairs the better.

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                              • 25 going on 65
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 1476

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Jazz1
                                I use promox and my temples have improved, had loads miniture hair come and thickening etc. just placed an order today again for the sprays as the tretinoin can irritate the scalp so gone for DMI instead, you can see those hairs. Has made me hairy a bit more but I like it as more hairs the better.
                                How long for results?
                                $138 for the max strength kit but I already spend that on Avo alone.
                                However I do not like the idea of a beard growing out of my forehead

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